THE Home Gas/Electric Bill Thread (merged)

[SchroedingersCat]

I'd post PG&E's rate chart for Northern California but you'd all go insane trying to read it. Here in SF we pay somewhere between .12 and .36 per KWh depending on how much you use. The average is $0.16474

The best way to get people to save electricity would be to bill them in a way they can understand.

[Troyboy1208]

I'd post PG&E's rate chart for Northern California but you'd all go insane trying to read it. Here in SF we pay somewhere between .12 and .36 per KWh depending on how much you use. The average is $0.16474
The best way to get people to save electricity would be to bill them in a way they can understand.

I wish they would make it easier. It seems unnecessarily complicated. Thanks for the replies

[BigTex]

The ONLY way to do this calculation is to take the TOTAL amount of your electricity bill and divided it by the total number of kwh you used.

It doesn't really matter how the bill is itemized. The calculation above is the real kwh rate because that is what you are paying for it.

For me, it's about 12 cents per kwh. I am on a time of use metering program (which I recommend), so my average per kwh charge fluctuates between about 12 and 12.5 cents per kwh.

The base rate is about 7.5 cents per kwh.

[Ludi]

With all access fees, etc, averages to 12.4 cents per kwh.

"power-cost pass -through" ( base rate?) 7.3 cents per kwh

[WisJim]

On our most recent bill, the supposed kw-hr rate is about 10 cents, fuel surcharge of a cent or so, meter reading fee of $8, plus taxes and other charges, end result is that total bill divided by kw-hrs used (about 54) equals over 34 cents a kw-hr. For me the power company is my backup generator for days it isn't sunny or windy for a couple of days in a row.

[kpeavey]

North Central Florida has FPL and Clay Electric CoOp. I am subjected to FPL, same set up as Progress Energy, customer fee (about $6), use charge (about 5c/kwh), fuel charge (about 6c/kwh), total is 11-12c/kwh. Bill has increased about 2c/kwh in 4 years, all of it in the fuel charge, a 50% increase.

[emersonbiggins]

12.1 c/kwh - 100% wind, Reliant Energy, Dallas

[Pablo2079]

$60.07 divided by 664 kwh used = 0.0904668 per kwh

Puget Sound Energy

[oowolf]

$0.057/kwh. Our co-op (Northern Lights) actually owns Kootenai Falls dam, located near Troy, MT.

[Troyboy1208]

Do you guys predict a dramatic increase in the Kwh rate? How can the companies be surviving with all the increases in fossil fuels? Anyone know the process that a company has to go through to raise their rates? Again thanks for all the responses

[Denny]

I am copying this from my electric bill, from our utility, Enersource. I thought Ontario had really high electrical rates, but it seems mine are in a similar ballpark to most, at about $0.10 per kWh, all in:

YOUR ELECTRICITY CHARGES
922 kWh @ $.0500 $46.10
374 kWh @ $.0500 18.69
43 kWh @ $.0590 2.55
Delivery 55.19
Regulatory Charges 8.80
Debt Retirement Charge 9.00

Total Electricity Charges $140.33

The bill above is for two months. I use a lot more in summer.
I presume the first lines deal with the actual cost for Enersource buying power and the "delivery" is their overhead and labor for the distribution of the power.

[FreddyH]

11.2 cents in The Yukon
5.7 in BC

[FoolYap]

16.45 cents a KWH here in central Massachusetts, with a small municipal power company.

--Steve

[MarkJ]

National Grid, Upstate New York: 14.5 cents per kWh.

[FloridaGirl]

Clay Electric - North Central Florida

$9/month customer charge
9.25 cents / kwh

FPL - Florida Power & Light

$5.34/month customer charge
9.36 cents / kwh - under 1000 kwh
11.39 cent / kwh - over 1000 kwh

$9.75/month Sunshine energy (optional) - Here's what FPL says about this charge:

"For every 10,000 customers who sign up for Sunshine Energy, an additional 150kw of solar will be built in Florida. New solar arrays are scheduled to be announced this year which will be among the largest solar energy producers in Florida.

In addition, for each month that you participate in the program, FPL ensures that 1,000 kWh of cleaner electricity from sources like wind, bioenergy and solar is generated and delivered to power systems serving Florida and other states nationwide."

Total bill for April (less the Sunshine Energy charge): $82.41
$82.41 / 705 kwh => 11.69 cents / kwh

3/2 - 2 people, 1400 sqft, includes water (well)

[eastbay]

271 KWH for $31.84 for the month of April in this 1800 sq ft average house near Portland.


$.1175 each. Not bad. Cheap.

[bodigami]

What about the total KW used by all of you, fellow posters?

[TommyJefferson]

Here's my year with TXU...

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      Average
Date      Temp   KWH   bill         $ / kwh
May/2008   81   1494   $192.98    0.1292
Apr/2008   76   866   $107.77    0.1244
Mar/2008   71   819   $102.61    0.1253
Feb/2008   66   654   $84.47      0.1292
Jan/2008   56   941   $116.01    0.1233
Dec/2007   64   913   $112.94    0.1237
Nov/2007   71   807   $101.29    0.1255
Oct/2007   85   1252   $150.19    0.1200
Sep/2007   91   1969   $267.77    0.1360
Aug/2007   93   2270   $307.97    0.1357
Jul/2007   88   2246   $279.76    0.1246
Jun/2007   87   2155   $292.61    0.1358
May/2007   82   1409   $201.56    0.1431

I didn't break out fees and taxes. I just divided my actual bill amount by the KiloWattHours.

[Troyboy1208]

Here's my year with TXU...
Average
Date Temp KWH bill $ / kwh

I like how they include the average temperature. Dividing your bill amount by kwh seems to be the easiest way of calculating that.

[eastbay]

Holy cow TJ. You pay a lot! I bet we're under $400/yr!! And if not for this G5 Apple it would be maybe closer to $300.

What do you have [s]growing[/s] going out there anyhow??