35Kas wrote: I find it irrelevant to ponder more than a few hundred years into the future as if we could change what will transpire (barring "divine" intervention, magic bullets, etc). Whatever happens, either we will adapt and survive as a species, or we will not, which would make the entire point moot anyway.
dohboi wrote:
Some people can handle facing such dark realities/possibilities; others have to limit themselves to their life times, or only a few centuries, or other forms of denial to avoid seeing the depth of damage they/we are causing.
Each to her or his own, I suppose.
Ibon wrote:It is not necessary to know ahead of time the outcome. We have little control anyway.
Plantagenet wrote:Ibon wrote:It is not necessary to know ahead of time the outcome. We have little control anyway.
This is much like fatalism.
Ibon wrote:I agreed with your whole post actually.
Ibon wrote:You took the above sentence I wrote out of context.
Ibon wrote:I am an atheist by the way. I trust in the higher power of the overshoot predator but he is not ruled by theology. He is an ecological phenomenon!
Hail to the overshoot predator. Let the cleansing begin.
Plantagenet wrote:
If the vengeful god is dead then the overshoot predator is dead.
Its up to people to do something about climate change. All it will take is one major climate disaster while Trump is mouthing inanities about no human caused global warming, and the politics could flip in a moment, and carbon taxes and a new UN climate treaty to reduce CO2 emissions could become higher political priorities in the USA.
Let the healing begin.
CHEERS!
dohboi wrote:Why 'his'?
Plantagenet wrote:Back to global warming
Right now we know enough to know the outcome if we stay on our current course is undesirable. We don't have to know every detail of the future to know unchecked global warming will be a catastrophe.
But its our duty as sentient, thoughtful, intelligent humans to keep working to save the planet.
Ibon wrote:Just think of all that rotting biomass. Fungi and decomposers are moving into a golden age.
35Kas wrote:Their base comparison about the 55mya example of the CO2 pulse that had a significant atmospheric presence for a long time according to the geologic record indicates that although it probably caused significant disruption in the biosphere, the fact that we are still here shows that it was not an apocalyptic event.
The oldest known fossils of most of the modern orders of mammals appear in a brief period during the early Eocene and all were small, under 10 kg.
dohboi wrote:Nice breakdown of demographics. I'm not sure what you see in it, though, that is so helpful in explaining the fact that politicians are more denialist than the public, but maybe I'm missing something.
In a real democracy, the politicians views should track fairly close to those of the general populous, broadly. The poll in your study showed that only 20% of the US public were doubtful or dismissive of climate science, yet an entire party of the US is, one that is now in control of all three branches of government.
Any illumination would be most welcome.
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