THE EEStor Thread (merged)

[BigTex]

Before you dismiss it, check it out: link

Company called EEStor in Austin, Texas. Google EEStor and ultracapacitor. Product looks to be about 10 times more efficient than lead acid batteries.

This technology is a lot more interesting than most alternative energy solutions. Think about it before you say it won't work and can't be scaled to replace fossil fuel dependent systems.

[EndOfSewers]

And the energy stored in those ultracapacitors will come from . . . ?

[rwwff]

And the energy stored in those ultracapacitors will come from . . . ?

Coal and uranium of course.

[pstarr]

[Coal and uranium of course.

or wind and solar.

I don't know anything about capacitors but it would appear that a long-storage device would be the holy-grail of the electric car industry, alleviating the shortcoming of chemical batteries--wear and disposal, cold temperature weakness, long charging etc.

(besides this give me the opportunity to try out my new signiature in proximitry to its target )

[Mesuge]

Even if this technology is legit the company has been already coopted by Borgs. For instance people like the infamous traitor Colin Powell sit on their board..

So by 2015 you might see it in tanks and 2030 maybe in your car..

[rwwff]

I don't know anything about capacitors but it would appear that a long-storage device would be the holy-grail of the electric car industry, alleviating the shortcoming of chemical batteries--wear and disposal, cold temperature weakness, long charging etc.

I think I've gotten a bit tired of magic batteries over the years. I'd love for one to turn out to be marketable, but I'm not going to get excited until they are used in heavy consumer devices like scooters, cars, golf carts....

(besides this give me the opportunity to try out my new signiature in proximitry to its target )

Ahh, I was wondering when you'd notice. I don't think "The Trumpet of Wrath" is as good as my previous one. A brief moment of optimism stole my edge, I think. Perhaphs I saw too many people using bicycles to get around despite the opressive heat. Definately a sign that people might adapt to a post cheap oil life without too much difficulty.

[pstarr]

So miracles capacitors are a gimmick? Been tried and failed? Just another shuck and jive? oh well. I figured as much.

Rwwf, yeah I like the doom and gloom angle better.

[FireJack]

Its very nice but how exactly are these ultracapaciters going to save us?

[BigTex]

Its very nice but how exactly are these ultracapaciters going to save us?

I'm glad you asked. Ultracapacitors by themselves won't save us, but they are the precursor to the more advanced flux capacitor, which we will attach to a supertanker and send it back in time to fill up with cheap oil and come back to the future and stabilize future oil shortages.

[BigTex]

Note that the company is keeping a low profile, no website, no wild claims. The only public information is based upon the patent application describing how the energy storage device works. It may not deliver what it suggests but I am interested in seeing what they are able to bring to market (as I'm sure you all are).

I like that there is not a lot of stupid hype like we've been hearing about hydrogen.

[Kingcoal]

Actually, the ability to store large amounts of electricity indefinately would absolutely save us. Electricity really only has one drawback, the ability to store it without significant losses. Electric devices are very efficient (electric heaters are 100% efficient) and it is a form of energy that is very easy to control when put to work.

At night, generators are spinning free, with very little load. If we could store all that electricity generated (and lost) at night, we could use it to power our cars, etc. The efficiency of electric devices is astonding. Most electric motors are well in exess of 90%. Compare that to an internal combustion engine which is somewhere between 20%-35%.

But, allas, we need a working prototype of this technology which can be peer reviewed.

[NEOPO]

I dont think I want "saved" anymore.

Saved for what?

So we can go on fucking up everything else?

So we can perpetrate lies and war further?

So we can enslave more with our greedy ways and means?

So we can convince another generation to kill the thing which brings them life - the environment.....

Yeah......save yourself.

[BigTex]

I dont think I want "saved" anymore.

Saved for what?

So we can go on fucking up everything else?

So we can perpetrate lies and war further?

So we can enslave more with our greedy ways and means?

So we can convince another generation to kill the thing which brings them life - the environment.....

Yeah......save yourself.

NEOPO, you should become a motivational speaker.

[rwwff]

Saved for what?
So we can go on fucking up everything else?

There's still ice that needs melting and green stuff that is in need of burning.

[lowem]

BMW X5 hybrid, ultracapacitor-equipped, produces a massive 1000 Nm of torque for 7 seconds when fully charged up :

1000 Nm BMW X5 hybrid
http://www.jroller.com/page/lowem/20040 ... _x5_hybrid

But - it's a prototype, the story is dated April 2004 and I haven't really heard anything on that since.

[rwwff]

But - it's a prototype, the story is dated April 2004 and I haven't really heard anything on that since.

Funny how that works, eh?

[mrflora]

I am working on autonomous underwater vehicles with a group from the Naval Oceanographic Lab. We intend to evaluate EEStor's ultracapacitors next year.

Regards,
M.R.F.

[BigTex]

I am working on autonomous underwater vehicles with a group from the Naval Oceanographic Lab. We intend to evaluate EEStor's ultracapacitors next year.

Regards,
M.R.F.

If you're not joking around like my flux capacitor comment, I will be interested in the results. Please post any additional information you come across.

[Frank]

Maxwell has a contract with a bus manufacturing company to supply a quantity of uCaps for hybrid buses for a city in California. Ultracapacitors make good sense for heavy duty hybrid applications because their charge/discharge efficiency is better than most batteries and energy/weight ratios are favorable. 40% economy boosts seem to be the norm. Here's more info:

http://www.isecorp.com/ise_products_ser ... ve_system/

http://www.freshnews.com/news/other-tec ... chnologies

[SolarDave]

I'm a believer in Ultracaps:

Maxwell Ultracapacitor Boosting pedal Powered Television