THE Earth in 2100 Thread (merged)

[VMarcHart]

There's a post on the site's front page. I couldn't find the thread. Would a Mod please merge?

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Whereas some of it might happen, my "bold prediction" is that 90% won't.

[Roy]

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

Check out the comments. These are the first 5. At: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Earth2100/comments?type=story&id=7697237

people have been saying this since, well, since we have been able to speak. We will never see the end of our civilization, ever!
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hyperkell May-29
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kewl sounds like fun
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Guineverre May-29
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Yellow journalism at its finest!
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fitzhugh66 May-29
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Left wing scare tactics---that's what you call science?
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FThatsWhatUWant May-29
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God when wil this stop? Left wing media at it's best! Al Gore and his cronies are behind this. More money in Gore's pocket.
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tyee12334 May-29
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There are some comments on there that are more realistic but at least half or more are like the above.

There are a lot of people out there who are in denial of our environmental impacts and our overpopulation causing impacts on Earth's carrying capacity.

Based on their actions, I would say the majority of our leaders fall into that camp as well.

That is not good.

[ian807]

Define "civilization."

[Ludi]

Define "civilization."

Primary Criteria

Settlement of cities of 5,000 or more people.
Full-time labor specialization.
Concentration of surplus.
Class structure.
State-level political organization.


Secondary Criteria

Monumental architecture
Long-distance trade
Sophisticated art
Writing
Predictive sciences (math, astronomy, etc.)

http://anthropik.com/2005/03/what-is-civilization/

[mos6507]

I'm carrying out a little sociology experiment on my facebook page. For a long time I didn't want people I knew to be my friend there because I post links to doom on a daily basis. I didn't want them to know I was a doomer. But after I came out to my family, I said f-it, so now I have people there I know, mostly childhood friends from the east coast and old coworkers from the west coast. Now, I see some of the stuff they post, mostly humor. It shows that they don't really burden themselves with pessimism. And yet I know they are reading my links. I've gotten a couple sarcastic comments here and there. So I'm kind of wondering what the net effect of this is, of them seeing my links stream by on a regular basis. Either this is like water of a duck's back or it's having some kind of subliminal effect. I guess I'll find out eventually.

[TheDude]

Hey, I'm going to be died by then and so will my kids....Why do I care about my grand children and beyond..Wow starting to sound Rushish! Don't people just do things because it's right? I hope to thing that's what makes us better then the wild animals in the forest! God forgive us!
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I hope to thing your write, 2.

[Nefarious]

If MSM is saying 2100 it probably means 2020.

[pstarr]

We created the Internet. The last great feat. The rest is denouement.

[Windmills]

I think people confuse the concept of civilization with things like luxury, complicated technology, cheap oil, gas, and goal energy, and globalized economies. Civilization has existed without those things for most of recorded history. A change in economies, governments, and technology doesn't mean that civilization disappears. It just changes. Maybe violently, maybe painfully, maybe terribly, but it's still just a change, not an end to it.

[nobodypanic]

I'm carrying out a little sociology experiment on my facebook page. For a long time I didn't want people I knew to be my friend there because I post links to doom on a daily basis. I didn't want them to know I was a doomer. But after I came out to my family, I said f-it, so now I have people there I know, mostly childhood friends from the east coast and old coworkers from the west coast. Now, I see some of the stuff they post, mostly humor. It shows that they don't really burden themselves with pessimism. And yet I know they are reading my links. I've gotten a couple sarcastic comments here and there. So I'm kind of wondering what the net effect of this is, of them seeing my links stream by on a regular basis. Either this is like water of a duck's back or it's having some kind of subliminal effect. I guess I'll find out eventually.

and yet here, you're by comparison an optimist. ironic, isn't it?
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2100? i think they're off by about 80 or 90 years.

[peripato]

There are a lot of people out there who are in denial of our environmental impacts and our overpopulation causing impacts on Earth's carrying capacity.

And a lot of that type frequents this forum too. No need to name names - you wankers know who you are!

[hillsidedigger]

Remember, this world is just a birthing place for souls to later populate the heavens (a select percentage of them anyhow)

and it doesn't matter if in a few years the entire world is just a heap of rotting, disposable diapers.

Note - That is not what I think but it's what I have been frequently told by others for decades.

[Tyler_JC]

Class structure is required for a civilization?

Does that mean Marxists are uncivilized?

[TWilliam]

Class structure is required for a civilization?

Does that mean Marxists are uncivilized?

What makes you think Marxists are classless? There's at least two classes among Marxists: those who manage things 'for The People', and everyone else...

[Nefarious]

Watching it now. So far so good. Seems to be telling it like it is. So Far.

[Forney2008]

I see that got Kunstler in for a brief clip there early in the program talking about oil running out.

[Ferretlover]

Anybody managed to watch Earth 2100 on ABC tonight? It was great.

[Jotapay]

For some reason, I'd rather eat my eyeballs raw with a spork than watch something ABC has created and presents it as a prediction of our future.

1. You absolutely cannot trust an American corporation for truth, as there is always an agenda
2. ABC is a corporate member of the CFR, and therefore inherently antithetical to the interests of the American people

I've worked at several American and foreign corporations. The bald faced lies that are accepted as standard operating procedure every day makes you think Corporate America is the original home of Bizarro World. The only time we knew when someone was fired was when an email circulated from HR that said so-and-so "was pursuing other opportunities at another company". If someone actually quit, there was no email. During company meetings, "no bonuses this quarter" actually meant "no bonuses for plebes, executives get a 10% raise on their bonus and stock options from last quarter". "We are focused on taking care of the customer and their needs" meant that we were forced by management to deliver a shitty product as fast as possible and then lie to the customer, downplaying the obvious flaws with a smiling face when they start complaining about how it doesn't work. A smiling face is more important than actually having technical expertise to create a system which works error free and runs by itself, monitoring itself for errors.

They day I hear ,"We spend the time to do it right the first time, damn the demands of ignorant management" is when I take a 50% pay cut and work for that IT director for the rest of my life.

So anything an American corporation presents to me, I'm going to take with a mountain of salt.

[mos6507]

For some reason, I'd rather eat my eyeballs raw with a spork than watch something ABC has created and presents it as a prediction of our future.

1. You absolutely cannot trust an American corporation for truth, as there is always an agenda
2. ABC is a corporate member of the CFR, and therefore inherently antithetical to the interests of the American people

For the record, it's the biggest heaping pile of doom ever served on mainstream media. But since you boycotted it due to your knee-jerk tinfoil, you missed out. Way to go, genius.

[Sixstrings]

Experts say over the next hundred years the "perfect storm" of population growth, resource depletion and climate change could converge with catastrophic results.

ABC is on a roll here, they did that doomer Nightline piece not long ago. Will be interesting to see if and how much they touch on peak oil.

EDIT: darn, I guess I'm a day late and a dollar short on this subject. Maybe I should have the TV on more, lol