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Re: The death of suburbia

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 18 Jun 2017, 08:58:39

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vtsnowedin wrote:I was objecting to the use of Latin phrases as means to imply that the poster was better educated or more intelligent then the readers.


The one Latin phrase PStarr knows more than any other is ad hominem.

Yes but he doesn't understand that it is a bad thing to do. :razz:
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Re: The death of suburbia

Unread postby ralfy » Sun 18 Jun 2017, 18:28:34

vtsnowedin wrote:Well you had an excellent education then. I remember diagramming sentences. subject , predicate , conjunction , verbs etc. in sixth grade but the emphasis was on math and history, multiplying and dividing fractions and such. But that was a full fifty years ago and I hardly remember some of the things I wasn't paying all that much attention to on the day it was presented.


It was a regular education. Search online and you will find several handouts for teaching Greek and Latin roots in primary school and fallacies in high school. BTW, math and history are still taught, together with others. If there is anything that is rarely taught, it's diagramming.
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Re: The death of suburbia

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 19 Jun 2017, 04:21:31

ralfy wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:Well you had an excellent education then. I remember diagramming sentences. subject , predicate , conjunction , verbs etc. in sixth grade but the emphasis was on math and history, multiplying and dividing fractions and such. But that was a full fifty years ago and I hardly remember some of the things I wasn't paying all that much attention to on the day it was presented.


It was a regular education. Search online and you will find several handouts for teaching Greek and Latin roots in primary school and fallacies in high school. BTW, math and history are still taught, together with others. If there is anything that is rarely taught, it's diagramming.

But any chance were your teachers nuns?
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Re: The death of suburbia

Unread postby ralfy » Wed 21 Jun 2017, 19:58:27

vtsnowedin wrote:But any chance were your teachers nuns?


Regular teachers.

You should probably consider the point that it was your education that was exceptional.
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Re: The death of suburbia

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Wed 21 Jun 2017, 23:16:00

ralfy wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:But any chance were your teachers nuns?


Regular teachers.

You should probably consider the point that it was your education that was exceptional.

I Have to think that mine was quite good by present standards but not exceptional compared to what was in the best American schools then. My wife's, on the other hand, was in Catholic schools where most of the teachers were Nuns. She can be a grammar Nazi or a great spelling dictionary when needed but knows almost nothing about math and science and absolutely nothing about current events and political history. You can not have a very nuanced view of a topic if you have never had the topic placed in front of you and never had to think about t.
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Re: The death of suburbia

Unread postby ralfy » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 08:36:27

vtsnowedin wrote: I Have to think that mine was quite good by present standards but not exceptional compared to what was in the best American schools then. My wife's, on the other hand, was in Catholic schools where most of the teachers were Nuns. She can be a grammar Nazi or a great spelling dictionary when needed but knows almost nothing about math and science and absolutely nothing about current events and political history. You can not have a very nuanced view of a topic if you have never had the topic placed in front of you and never had to think about t.


Logical fallacies, etc., are usually taught as part of reading and writing argumentative essays in high school, as well as debate. Sometimes, Latin terms are mentioned.

Given that, I have no idea why you think the use of Latin phrases involves Catholic schools or knowing nothing about math, science, etc.
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