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Speaking of respectable institutions I give you Brian Josephson of Cambridge. He may not represent the whole of Cambridge as an institution, but he is a respectable physicist and has well thought out opinions. He gives a thorough and positive presentation on Rossi's work.blinkybill wrote:You and all your fellow LENR cultists are grasping at straws and claiming that the tenuous connections with respectable institutions imply endorsement.
You have NOTHING.
Brian Josephson wrote:Quote from the presentation:
"For those aware that the current view of cold fusion is due more to effective propaganda then to any objective assessment of the evidence, Rossi's claims came as less of a surprise. While various factors can influence the result of the heat measurement, investigations to date have failed to uncover anything that would challenge the conclusion that a nuclear process is involved."
Video: Brian Josephson - Cambridge:
Description: In January 2011 Andrea Rossi demonstrated a device that purported to develop 10 kW of power from a nuclear reaction. This video discusses its credibility, the investigations that have been done on the device, and its future prospects (a multiple-unit system was measured by its potential buyer as generating 500 kW on Oct. 28, 2011).
Abstract: In January 2011 Andrea Rossi demonstrated a device that purported to develop 10 kW of power from a nuclear reaction. This video discusses its credibility, the investigations that have been done on the device, and its future prospects. The nuclear power claim can be tested by measuring total energy over a period of time and comparing it with what would be possible from conventional energy sources. Previous claims of this kind, beginning with that of Fleischmann and Pons in 1989 , have been generally doubted, but it is argued that this general doubt owes more to the persuasive power of rhetoric than to the actual facts.
In contrast to the ITER thermonuclear project, where practical application is decades away, reactors of the Rossi type are already in production and, according to NASA Chief Scientist Dennis M. Bushnell, may be capable of "completely changing geo-economics, geo-politics, and solving climate and energy".
 http://www.evworld.com/evworld_audio/de ... _part1.mp3 .
YouTube version of this video, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8eIhth8Iw8 .
Cog wrote:Was Brian Josephson of Cambridge at any of Rossi's demonstations? If he wasn't he isn't qualified to judge whether fraud was involved or not.
Which countries would that be?blinkybill wrote:"Transmutation of elements via the FPE may replace mining."
It'll do more than that. it'll kill the entire precious metals business
which has been a foundation for countries' *monetary systems*. What affect
that will have on economic systems, and countries, is probably not going to
TheAntiDoomer wrote:Carlhole, don't let the idiots get you down, I really enjoy your post here and hope you continue.
Innovators throughout the world are using the NI graphical system design approach to efficiently address the world’s grand engineering challenges in medical technology, urban infrastructure, alternative energy and other critical applications. In physics specifically, NI has contributed product solutions to some of the most advanced projects including the CERN Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and tokamak fusion device control systems. Additionally, the Leonardo Corporation has intentions to incorporate NI tools in its control system.
Schadenfreude wrote:When there's news, I'll post it.
Schadenfreude wrote:But just to re-iterate, I have no opinion on the validity of Rossi or Defkalion's systems but I think there's something to LENR science in general. It remains to be seen if it can produce commercial quantities of energy.
Schadenfreude wrote:It seems highly improbable to me that multiple simultaneous frauds are being perpetrated. It also seems unlikely that a well-known company like National Instruments, Inc. could be working with Rossi and fail to sniff out any such fraud. And I still can't see how Rossi or Defkalion could possibly hope to profit of their dueling "scams".
TheAntiDoomer wrote:and no matter how much you Cry like a baby DP, we'll continue to discuss the issue here.
Daniel_Plainview wrote:You're a liar. You have an obvious and consistent bias toward advocating Rossi and Defkalion.
Most of the time I just post news. I've repeatedly said since the beginning that I have no opinion on rossi or dekalion but either one of these makes some news, I post it. A lot of the time i don't bother to comment.
Ad hom deleted.
Besides, you are just not worth listening to. Here was YOUR take on the Rossi/Defkalion split:
4. Defkalion wanted to cut its losses and cover its ass.
Daniel_Plainview wrote:You are clearly a Rossi fanboy, and the ONLY reason you profess to be "neutral" is to lure more suckers and airheads like Antidoomer into your camp
When you report a story that someone selling magic beans is scamming fools, that's not news nor is it interesting. However, when you report that a whole coterie of PhDs claim that there just might be something to these beans after all, then it becomes news and it becomes interesting. ...
You guys just want to dismiss this ongoing drama while I do not. I can always count on the doom crowd to take any negative side, so I don' t have to bother much with that - and also the negative side, like I said, is not news and not interesting.
Schadenfreude wrote:You idiots are the ones that characterize me as a believer. Not me.
Schadenfreude wrote: Inappropriate language deleted. because your a bunch of bonehead morons who just want to shut this energy news thread down.
blinkybill wrote:Just following the story hey Banana Man?
Do you even care about the retirees, small business people, redundancy payout investors, and all other victims of this multi-level SCAM?
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