THE Cold Fusion Thread pt 4 (merged)

[vision-master]

Gerald Celente’s Dire Predictions For 2012



11. Alternative Energy 2012:

Even under the cloud of Fukushima, the harnessing of nuclear power is being reinvigorated by a fuel that is significantly safer than uranium and by the introduction of small, modular, portable reactors that reduce costs and construction time. In addition, there are dozens of projects underway that explore the possibility of creating cleaner, competitively priced liquid fuels distilled from natural sources. Plan to start saying goodbye to conventional liquid fuels!

http://www.disinfo.com/2011/12/gerald-c ... -for-2012/

[SeaGypsy]

Yipppeeee! Peak everything is cancelled! We have enough energy to multiply the volume of the planet over centuries allowing us to theoreticly keep growing economicly for millions of years! In the future we will all live in sub terranian megalopolis with the entire surface of the planet devoted to farming for humanity! Won't it be wonderful!

[Schadenfreude]

Rossi's 'Customer' is "Defkalion Green Technologies", a rather nebulous Greek company with unknown backers, which appears to have been recently set up with the sole function of marketing Rossi's e-cat.

This is from July 2011, before the Rossi/Defkalion split. This analysis is totally and completely defunct because now Rossi and Defkalion are competitors set upon marketing their own independent LENR products.

Don't you follow this story even a little bit? Don't you read?

[Schadenfreude]

OH!
So Andreas floozy now has no connection with Dekafliascam?

Nope. He sure doesn't.

[Schadenfreude]

eCat Pre-Order List 50,000 Units

Just posted on AR’s blog. Interesting that he is allowing slippage of the shipping date to 18 months. This is reasonable if dissapointing. This timescale is closer to his original forecast of one to two years before recent talk of Autumn/Winter this year. Given the hurdles of certification and tooling for mass production, a little prudence with the forecast is probably called for.

At 50K strong, the list is a strong indicator of the latent interest waiting to be released. Watch that interest rocket should Defkalion deliver successful independent tests.

Andrea Rossi
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Dear Christian Bistriceanu:
Your pre-order has been accepted. By the way: so far we received about 50,000 pre-orders and counting, which is not bad, for a product that has still to be described in details. Our 10,000 target has been burnt rapidly.
The E-Cat will be offered in details by this Autumn and the shipments will start probably within the next winter, if there are no delays for unforeseen problems. Surely we will start the shipments within 18 months from now.
You will be free to buy it wherever you want and send it wherever you want. You will be also able to buy it in Internet and we will provide you all the assistance you need.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

[SeaGypsy]

Nobody reputable has gotten any usefull amounts of energy from anything like LENR. Somebody disreputable claims to be doing what nobody else has in decades of university funded research, utilizing the sales expertise of people specializing in unicorn refurbs; what is any sane person supposed to think?

[Schadenfreude]

Nobody reputable has gotten any usefull amounts of energy from anything like LENR. Somebody disreputable claims to be doing what nobody else has in decades of university funded research, utilizing the sales expertise of people specializing in unicorn refurbs; what is any sane person supposed to think?

A sane person would listen to what various high-level scientists say about the subject. He/she would listen to the remarks made by those scientists who were in attendance at the various demonstrations of rossi's device. A sane person would read about what other LENR researchers have accomplished over the years in books such as this:

Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction: A Comprehensive Compilation of Evidence and Explanations about Cold Fusion

And a sane person who is interested in energy would follow the Rossi and Defkalion news as well as the developments in the larger LENR science picture keeping a skeptical but open mind.

[SeaGypsy]

The folks I believe talking about this, are talking decades of R&D possibly leading to some kind of breakthrough to usefull extraction levels, until then it's a quirk of nature like the multiple unknown dimensions of space time.

[Schadenfreude]

Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction: A Comprehensive Compilation of Evidence and Explanations about Cold Fusion

One of the most important discoveries of this century cold fusion was summarily rejected by science and the media before sufficient evidence had been accumulated to make a rational judgment possible. Enough evidence is now available to show that this rejection was wrong and that the discovery of a new source of clean energy may help solve some serious problems currently facing mankind. The book catalogues and evaluates this evidence and shows why the initial reaction was driven more by self-interest than fact. This book is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand the history and science behind the cold fusion controversy. In addition to the technological importance of the effect, the discovery of new ways to initiate nuclear reactions without producing significant radiation reveals an entirely new mechanism operating at the nuclear level in solid material. This new mechanism has important implications for an understanding of many other phenomena.

BTW, you can download this book for free if you search the torrent sites. It's a 2007 work, but it compiles all the evidence for LENR for the previous 20 years.

LENR is a real phenomenon.

About the author:

Edmund Storms obtained a Ph.D. in radiochemistry from Washington University (St. Louis) and is retired from the Los Alamos National Laboratory after thirty-four years of service. His work there involved basic research in the field of high temperature chemistry as applied to materials used in nuclear power and propulsion reactors, including studies of the "cold fusion" effect. Over seventy reviewed publications and monographs resulted from this work as well as several books, all describing an assortment of material properties. He presently lives in Santa Fe where he is investigating the "cold fusion" effect in his own laboratory. These studies have resulted in fifteen presentations to various conferences including the ACS and APS. In addition, twenty-one papers have been published including four complete scientific reviews of the field, one published in 1991, another in 1996 and 1998, and the latest in 2000. A critical evaluation of the Pons-Fleischmann Effect was published in 2000. In May 1993, he was invited to testify before a congressional committee about the "cold fusion" effect. In 1998, Wired magazine honored him as one of the 25 people who is making a significant contribution to new ideas.

[SeaGypsy]

Which is as proper attracting continued attention, funding and research commensurate with it's perceptible likelihood of payoff multiplied by the level of hype generated by professors in university laboratories, divided by the specific knowledge of physics of the proposed funding base.

[Schadenfreude]

Independent Testing on Hyperion Reactors

Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies Global Ltd. (PDGT) is ready to further allow third parties to evaluate its core technology: a multi stage LENR reaction between Nickel and Hydrogen.

PDGT has successfully completed its scientific, technological and engineering steps necessary to sustain such a reaction with results exceeding a COP of 20 and with temperatures capable to exceed 650 degrees Celsius.

As it was announced in our November 30th Press Release, a series of third party tests on Hyperion products have been scheduled to be performed within the first months of 2012, immediately after our product’s certification. The present announcement does not refer to such product tests.

With this announcement, PDGT welcomes further requests from internationally recognized and reputable scientific and business organizations interested to conduct their independent tests on “bare” Hyperion Reactors. Such independent tests have already been scheduled.

Tests will be conducted following mutually agreed protocols based on the general principles herein.

Test Objectives
• Measurement of excess heat produced by reactions within Hyperion reactors
• Measurement of “bare” Hyperion Reactor COP (i.e. total energy consumed versus energy produced)
• Measurement of radioactivity during testing
• Measurement of reactor’s stability using its control mechanisms

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[SeaGypsy]

http://www.google.com.au/search?aq=f&ix ... -8&q=PGDT+

Yields:

http://www.brill.nl/perspectives-global ... technology

and a big wheelchair mob. Google must be stupid.. hang on I try something else:

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q ... .2.7-1l5l0

Yielding a grand 3 mentions, 1 on ecat news, the others on Deflake's own PR directly, one fruity newssheet and quickly onto Russia....
Bit sad for a tec about to save the world.

Or Google must be stupid/ colluding with big oil etc....

[Schadenfreude]

https://www.google.com/search?q=defkali ... =firefox-a

About 167,000 results

Especially a dumbass with a track record of being right on the money totally full of shit.

[cipi604]

Independent Testing on Hyperion Reactors
Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies Global Ltd. (PDGT) is ready to further allow third parties to evaluate its core technology: a multi stage LENR reaction between Nickel and Hydrogen.
PDGT has successfully completed its scientific, technological and engineering steps necessary to sustain such a reaction with results exceeding a COP of 20 and with temperatures capable to exceed 650 degrees Celsius.
As it was announced in our November 30th Press Release, a series of third party tests on Hyperion products have been scheduled to be performed within the first months of 2012, immediately after our product’s certification. This announcement does not refer to such product tests.

http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2 ... actors.pdf

[SeaGypsy]

The lag is due to a slight hitch in the LENR engine driving the truck with all the testing gear to the other side of Europe. Last news was the vehicle being sighted just out of Bologna tied to the back of a very stubborn mule with a shifty look about him.

[Schadenfreude]

Defkalion appear to invite truly independent third party tests of their multi stage LENR reaction device

Summary of what successful independent tests and commercialization means

Defkalion has announced that they will commercialize low energy nuclear reactions.
An energy catalyzer that produces over 20 times the power that is put into it. Just before commercialization later this year, Defkalion is inviting what appears to be truly independent third party tests.

This relates to the buzz about the Rossi energy catalyzer. Defkalion and Rossi were partners but then they split.

If this is proved and the commercial devices work as promised then the world will be massively changed. Over the next few years as factories spring up around the world, the basic energy technology will be transformed.

It would also mean access to space would be transformed with the energy source being millions of times more energy dense than chemicals. Energy prices over the next several years could fall by ten to one hundred times. This would cause a global economic boom. Concerns about air pollution, peak oil, resource limitations would fade as energy capacity and availability would increase by thousands of times. The air pollution issues would go away as coal and natural gas plants and engines for cars are all replaced.

[Schadenfreude]

Defkalion forum

1. Our availability for such testing is from today, any day, within the next two months.

2. This series of tests will be performed in one of our labs in Athens, Greece.

3. Independent testing means, by definition, third party calibrated instruments. That is what we expect do be defined in the mutually agreed test protocols with the testers/evaluators.

4. Testing will be on "bare" Hyperion reactors without it's coolant interface. Please note Hyperion specs on our definition on "reactor" and "kernel". The last includes the coolant interface requiring the rest of the Hyperion subsystems to operate/perform. Such kernel and the rest of Hyperion subsystems testing as a total system, including flow calorimetry, will follow Hyperion's certification.

Both test Reactors will be measured (weight and all their dimensions) before and after their testing. Testers/evaluators may inspect the inner of the reactors during their "role switch".

5. We announced expected reactor's COP far more than 20, not 20. The reactors to be tested will be of the same version as the ones referred in our spec sheet. We will leave their exact COP to be calculated by the independent testers.

Any other detailed technical or procedural question on our press release will be answered only through direct mails to named representatives of organizations inquiring tests.

Thank you

[kublikhan]

Yet another Rossi lie exposed. He never paid the University of Bologna for e-cat testing.

Andrea Rossi, an Italian man who claims to have invented a practical low-energy nuclear reaction device, will not have his device tested and evaluated by the University of Bologna. Last summer, Rossi said he had started a research contract with the university to allow its researchers to study his “Energy Catalyzer.” But that didn’t happen.

Today, Dario Braga, director of scientific research at the university, told New Energy Times that the university waited long enough. It terminated the contract because Rossi did not fulfill his agreement to make the first progress payment, Braga said. “The contract ended on January 15 and has been canceled by the university,” Braga said. “Therefore, there is no further relationship between the university and Rossi or his company.”

Technology journalist Mats Lewan reported in Ny Teknik on March 10, 2011, that Rossi “is now paying 500,000 Euros to the Physics Department of Bologna University, following a new agreement.” But Rossi apparently lied to his fans last March about the university contract. No contract was signed in March. Paolo Capiluppi, the head of the University of Bologna Physics Department, signed the contract at the end of May, and Rossi signed it on June 21, 2011.

University of Bologna Terminates Relationship With Rossi

[Schadenfreude]

Nyteknik

Defkalion offers testing of cold fusion reactors

The Greek company Defkalion has invited scientific and business organizations to test the core technology in its forthcoming energy products. The products are based on LENR – Low Energy Nuclear Reactions.

In a press release on January 23, Defkalion has invited "internationally recognized and reputable scientific and business organizations" from now and two months ahead, to do independent testing with their own instruments on the reactors used in the Defkalion's forthvcoming energy device, "Hyperion".

The apparatus is according to Defkalion based on "Chemically Assisted Low Energy Nuclear Reactions caused by Nickel and Hydrogen Nuclei", a technology supposedly developed by the company after the termination of the agreement on production and distribution of Andrea Rossi's "E-cat" last summer.

Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, or LENR, is the term used in recent years instead of the more controversial "cold fusion", a new type of nuclear reactions that there is still little knowledge about.

Measurements will be made on the "bare" reactor without cooling, and according to Defkalion temperatures above 650°C will be reached, and also a power development that is far more than 20 times the input electrical power required to start the reaction (COP).

Defkalion describes a test method known as "Differential thermal analysis". The intention is to measure the difference between power development in a reactor loaded with fuel and one that is empty and only heated by the resistor needed to start the reaction, and then repeat the measurement after the reactors have been switched.

The description in the press release, however, is scant and partly incorrect.

In addition to power measurement, alpha and gamma radiation will be measured, and the reactors will be weighed, measured, and also opened.

Test protocols will be published before tests and the results may be published freely by invited evaluators.

Defkalion maintains that independent testing of the finished Hyperion products, which were presented in November 2011, will be made in the beginning of this year after certification of the products. Final products are supposed to be ready for market in 2012.

[Cog]

3. Independent testing means, by definition, third party calibrated instruments. That is what we expect do be defined in the mutually agreed test protocols with the testers/evaluators.

No, that is not what independent testing means. I can buy all sorts of calibrated instruments from a third party. An independent test means giving the device(as it is being sold) to a independent third party and see if they can generate useful energy from it.

Pure scam talk from Defkalion.