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The American Dream and the Puppetmasters

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Re: The American Dream and the Puppetmasters

Unread postby Timo » Tue 12 May 2015, 14:52:05

ennui2 wrote:
vox_mundi wrote:There is always revolution.


Pretty stupid to be advocating revolution on a public forum.


Stupid, perhaps, but still true.
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Re: The American Dream and the Puppetmasters

Unread postby ennui2 » Tue 12 May 2015, 16:40:58

vox_mundi wrote:Could you tell me; Which government was I allegedly conspiring against? Who was I conspiring with?


You tell me. Seems like all of them, given your anarchist avatar. Seems like you've got a full-time-job cut out for you shaking your fist at "the man".

vox_mundi wrote:I'm already on their watch list


Doesn't surprise me.

Yell fire in a crowded theater and see how far your claim of freedom of speech goes. This teeters pretty close to that.

People like you create a self-fulfilling prophecy as far as portraying themselves as being beaten down by the jack-boot-thugs.

You want to advocate civil political change, be my guest. You want to advocate revolution, complete with Molotov cocktails and cracked skulls, brother you can count me out (as John Lennon would say).
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Re: The American Dream and the Puppetmasters

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 12 May 2015, 17:35:07

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Re: The American Dream and the Puppetmasters

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 12 May 2015, 18:21:53

Good initial post Vox. Yes whenever the interests of Government and Industry coincide you can bet that the will proceed full steam ahead regardless of the masses wishes. Industry stood also to profit particularly the fossil fuel and car industry. Look at all the driving that suburbs have entailed. A true bonanza for Big Business.
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Re: The American Dream and the Puppetmasters

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Tue 12 May 2015, 23:08:18

Eisenhower's Farewell Address
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence-economic, political, even spiritual-is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been over shadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we-you and I, and our government-must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be, instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect.

Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength.

We pray that peoples of all faiths, all races, all nations, may have their great human needs satisfied; that those now denied opportunity shall come to enjoy it to the full; that all who yearn for freedom may experience its spiritual blessings; that those who have freedom will understand, also, its heavy responsibilities; that all who are insensitive to the needs of others will learn charity; that the scourges of poverty, disease and ignorance will be made to disappear from the earth, and that, in the goodness of time, all peoples will come to live together in a peace guaranteed by the binding force of mutual respect and love.

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Re: The American Dream and the Puppetmasters

Unread postby onlooker » Wed 13 May 2015, 01:14:04

Fabulous speech thanks Cid, truly prescient this speech.
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