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mos6507 wrote:I have kind of an oddball thought here, but does any of the biochar ever make its way back into plant matter? The whole idea is that it's permanently sequestered, right? That means it is inert and just stays there like a rock for eternity. If that's the case, wouldn't widescale biochar present some logistical issues longterm as it will raise up the level of the land?
If you take all the extra CO2 that is in the atmosphere and instantly sequester it as carbon black wouldn't you wind up with a Vesuvius-grade layer of soot across all landmasses?
It seems that if this were taken to an extreme level there would need to be a permanent disposal location for the excess biochar.


mos6507 wrote:I have kind of an oddball thought here, but does any of the biochar ever make its way back into plant matter? The whole idea is that it's permanently sequestered, right? That means it is inert and just stays there like a rock for eternity. If that's the case, wouldn't widescale biochar present some logistical issues longterm as it will raise up the level of the land?
If you take all the extra CO2 that is in the atmosphere and instantly sequester it as carbon black wouldn't you wind up with a Vesuvius-grade layer of soot across all landmasses?
It seems that if this were taken to an extreme level there would need to be a permanent disposal location for the excess biochar.


Giant microwave ovens that can "cook" wood into charcoal could become our best tool in the fight against global warming, according to a leading British climate scientist.
Chris Turney, a professor of geography at the University of Exeter, said that by burying the charcoal produced from microwaved wood, the carbon dioxide absorbed by a tree as it grows can remain safely locked away for thousands of years. The technique could take out billions of tonnes of CO2 from the atmosphere every year.
Fast-growing trees such as pine could be "farmed" to act specifically as carbon traps — microwaved, buried and replaced with a fresh crop to do the same thing again.
Turney has built a 5m-long prototype of his microwave, which produces a tonne of CO2 for $65. He plans to launch his company, Carbonscape, in the UK this month to build the next generation of the machine, which he hopes will process more wood and cut costs further.


New Zealand charcoal technology company Carbonscape™ is one of only five companies to make the shortlist in a global competition, the FT (Financial Times UK) Climate Change Challenge.
The prestigious competition seeks the most exciting innovations and practical ideas to reduce carbon emissions and make the world more resilient to the climate change ahead.
Carbonscape™ has been formed by a group of directors who have impressive renewable energy and sustainable business credentials. They are: knowledge broker and technology start-up expert, Nick Gerritsen; renewable energy developer Vicki Buck; Professor Chris Turney of the University of Exeter and author of Ice, Mud and Blood: Lessons from Climates Past; climate change entrepreneur; businessman Hamish Macfarlane and angel investor Tim Langley. International climate change campaigner and 2007 Australian of the Year, Tim Flannery recently joined the board.

Graeme wrote:'Biochar' goes industrial with giant microwaves to lock carbon in charcoal


That this energy voodo is not apparent to otherwise educated people continues to confound me. The survivors will ask themselves (there will be few others to ask it of): "What were they thinking?"mos6507 wrote:Graeme wrote:'Biochar' goes industrial with giant microwaves to lock carbon in charcoal
Those microwaves better be powered by nukes or renewables, otherwise you're just generating CO2 while you sequester.

Simple calculations show that if all the world’s proven conventional FHC reserves (about 1,000 G ton C) were processed by pyrolysis, and the coke produced were used as an agrichar at a terra preta rate of 250 ton/ha, this would suffice to cover 4 Gha: about one third of all the planet’s ice-free land. Coincidentally, the world’s ice-free land (about 12 Gha) could be split into approximately three equal parts. One part is fertile land suitable for agriculture and livestock pastures; another part is forest (Amazonas, Siberia, Canada, etc.); and the third part is infertile land (deserts and other arid lands). Therefore, hypothetically 4 Gha of infertile land would be available in the world for land-cover change
by additional coke produced from FHC reserves, looking toward the conversion of that infertile land to a new 4 Gha of fertile land.


As I feared would happen Big Coal is now funding research into using coked coal as a soil amendment instead of Biochar.
On the bad side of this Biochar is the only easy method we have of drawing CO2 out of the air that is financially rewarding for the people doing it. If Powdered coke can do the same thing it will be so much cheaper due to industrial scales of production that Big Ag will gladly use it instead of Biochar.
On the good side, if it does work as a soil amendment it will go a long way to eliminating wasted fertilizer which will cut runnoff pollution from big ag, which would be a very good thing IMO. Also it would make it more freasible to feed everyone without destroying what is left of the world's wild area's.
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gnm wrote:My experiments with bio-char are working great on my nasty thick clay soil. The areas where I have raked it in and re-seeded with drought tolerant clovers are doing real well. Significantly better than seeded bare clay areas. The coal bits get crushed ever finer just though walking around on it now and then and are starting to blend into the soil.
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