Exploring Hydrocarbon Depletion
americandream wrote:It will hopefully help us understand the odd behaviour of establishment conservative parties, their historic ties with Islam
Sixstrings wrote:americandream wrote:It will hopefully help us understand the odd behaviour of establishment conservative parties, their historic ties with Islam
How is it that you think Christian social conservatives are "allied with islam?" And have "historic ties?"
All due respect, that doesn't make much sense.
Sixstrings wrote:Ok, I read all that.
So in short, you're saying that the rich keep getting richer and the poor are poor and the rich like to keep the poor fighting each other.
And, I suppose you're saying that historically, the Church helps the elite (the Crown and nobility, in feudal times) keep their position.. and in return, the Crown helps the church keep THEIR position.
Is that a fair summation / interpretation of what you just said?
This is a very old dynamic, the relationship between the two major power structures in society. Government, and religion. The tribe's chief, and the shaman. Etc., etc.
And of course in modern times too, government and church may work together or one using the other, just as they always have.
But how do you then suggest that Christians are "allied to islam?" They're both religions, they both have dynamics between government and religion, but it doesn't mean the two religious power structures like each other. Rather, they're in competition with each other.
I really don't know what you're trying to say AD. :lol:
GASMON wrote:OK, it's the Daily Mail, but this article has some interesting points.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... EJOHN.html
KaiserJeep wrote:mobile electronic devices and a worldwide information network are now replacing all our other societal paradigms - and that the fantasies of Marx and Engels, which were never actually realized or proven in whole or in part - have already been replaced by an entirely new set spawned by Gates/Jobs/Zuckerberg. Humans are less than one generation away from becoming cybernetic organisms, with direct access to to the WWW and a hive mind enabled by WiFi interconnects. The ultimate class struggle is not Liberal/Conservative, Rich/Poor, Republican/Democrat, or any other divide you have ever contemplated, it will simply arise in a single unanticipated day, when those with direct mind/machine interfaces realize that they are the dominant species on Earth, and exterminate the others - those without cybernetic brain implants, the new Neanderthals. SkyNet will be born in a single day, and the world will be bathed in nuclear fire, and the new species of cyborgs will exterminate all the traditional, non-networked humans.
SeaGypsy wrote:There is no machine more efficient than a self disciplined human being at gathering it's own needs for strutting scampering & mating- we are the bionic superspecies, now. The machines depend on energy, so much about power the words are interchangeable. There are still vast areas where excess energy to run machines is absurdly scarce. When JIT goes, that's it for civilization, always a limited experiment.
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