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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 12 Oct 2010, 05:44:35

pstarr wrote:[
Oh right. You live in Vermont and don't have to deal with any of that. I do ya one better. I don't have snow or traffic :)

Snow keeps the riff raff out and now that leaf peepah season is over the only traffic I have is some deer hunters and the UPS truck. I do have to finish up the wood pile though and some other fall chores before first snow around Halloween.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Tue 12 Oct 2010, 19:51:07

pstarr wrote:So do all Republican deny global warming?


there is no such thing as "global warming". Another myth by liberals.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby jdmartin » Fri 15 Oct 2010, 09:50:50

^ :roll:

Anyway, what have I done?

Started growing some of my own vegetables.
Planted a lot of fruit trees & bushes.
Purchased a stripped down standard transmission old-school pickup for ease of keeping going long term.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not so sure those things have "simplified" my life as much as prepared it for a possible austere future. It's probably simpler to buy fruit in the store than grow it myself. But mostly everything I've done to "simplify" has been things I've thoroughly enjoyed, so if things stay rosy all I've done is found some neat hobbies :)
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Roy » Fri 15 Oct 2010, 10:02:26

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not so sure those things have "simplified" my life as much as prepared it for a possible austere future. It's probably simpler to buy fruit in the store than grow it myself. But mostly everything I've done to "simplify" has been things I've thoroughly enjoyed, so if things stay rosy all I've done is found some neat hobbies :)


What he said!

We downsized our lives big time. Paid off all debt except mortgage, smaller house, paid off cars, dumped expensive non-useful hobbies, built raised beds, grow food, planted lots of fruit trees/bushes, raised a flock of free=range layers, insulated the house, started heating with wood, burn approximately 40% of the gasoline/diesel per year compared to 2004 and before. I've (as a result of learning about PO) learned how to do many things I used to pay other people to do for me.

Those things are satisfying.

Still got a shitty job that wears my ass out (although its much closer to my house), but I'm making the mortgage and keeping the family covered with health insurance while trying to live as frugally as possible and put away for a rainy day.

The challenge is to remain optimistic and cheerful in the face of non-positive events and news, and around other people who don't understand the concept of limits, which is just about everyone I know in the meat world.

I like challenges.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Lore » Fri 15 Oct 2010, 11:20:15

Serial_Worrier wrote:
pstarr wrote:So do all Republican deny global warming?


there is no such thing as "global warming". Another myth by liberals.


I wonder what liberals belong to the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the Russian Academy of Sciences? Maybe it's also a communist plot within a liberal myth brought on by those seeking a one world government.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 15 Oct 2010, 11:26:53

Roy wrote:The challenge is to remain optimistic and cheerful in the face of non-positive events and news, and around other people who don't understand the concept of limits, which is just about everyone I know in the meat world.


I hear ya!

Roy wrote:I like challenges.



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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby efarmer » Fri 15 Oct 2010, 11:41:52

Full Catastrophe Living by Jon Kabat-Zinn is a great book. It teaches a technique of using Buddhist philosophy and cognitive therapy to learn how to bring peace of mind and harmony to your dealing with other people, but without the associated cultural or religious connotations. I.E. Keep your culture and religion but bring yourself some peace and have some spare left over to share with those around you.
This is scientifically created and proven technology based on things that are proven historically. It's completely free and only requires that you own 1 human body and mind.

We are the minority of people who want to be informed of large issues that will change our culture and lives, and it is only fitting that we find out how to be in the best state to reconcile our minds and bodies to the task and have them able to keep us to the good in chaos and uncertainty. I have noticed lately that there is much more respectful and useful debate and correspondence on the forum. This is a wonderful development because it tells me we are turning the corner from informed panic to how to be true and capable surfers of chaos.



We have to get good at not living in fear in a time of increasing fear stimulus.

I wish all of you a resilient and fear shedding mind as we travel through the coming times.

Make the most of the best and the least of the worst.

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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby dixonge » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 13:37:19

We embarked on a simplification process a few years ago. We shed all our debt, then when it came to the house we were 5 years in with a negative $50,000 equity so were forced to walk (it goes on sale at the courthouse Tuesday)! We've been in a 1-bedroom apartment since April and have truly enjoyed the smaller space and relative simplicity. We have begun the next phase by purchasing a used truck and have begun perusing trailers. Our intention was to retire early this next summer and hit the road, seeing the sights.

And then I discovered this whole 'peak oil' thing. I watch too many damned documentaries. :x It is true what they say: 'Ignorance is bliss.'

So now we're trying to figure out what to do next. Either way, keeping it simple helps us be nimble for which ever direction we choose...
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 17:23:26

dixonge wrote:We embarked on a simplification process a few years ago. We shed all our debt, then when it came to the house we were 5 years in with a negative $50,000 equity so were forced to walk (it goes on sale at the courthouse Tuesday)! We've been in a 1-bedroom apartment since April and have truly enjoyed the smaller space and relative simplicity. We have begun the next phase by purchasing a used truck and have begun perusing trailers. Our intention was to retire early this next summer and hit the road, seeing the sights.

And then I discovered this whole 'peak oil' thing. I watch too many damned documentaries. :x It is true what they say: 'Ignorance is bliss.'

So now we're trying to figure out what to do next. Either way, keeping it simple helps us be nimble for which ever direction we choose...

Does walking away from the house leave you with a loser credit score and put you in a COD situation from now on?
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Jenab » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 10:26:39

vtsnowedin wrote:8) I haven't washed a car in thirty years. Being five miles from the nearest pavement makes it a waste of time. They last just as long dirty. I heat my house with wood I cut off my land and nothing else.I can't leave it in the winter without a house sitter or draining the pipes. Snowed in with a full wood shed and a pantry and freezer full of food is a good feeling.

Yep. And having a big pile of science fiction and fantasy books that you haven't read already helps a lot, too.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 10:32:23

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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Cog » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 17:43:12

The biggest thing we have done over the last three years is to tackle our debt and pay it down. The last two bills will be gone next year(fingers crossed) leaving the mortgage only. Everything now is paid for in cash and that really makes us think before we buy anything. I'm expanding my suburban garden again, not because its simple to grow food, but because it tastes a lot better and I'm learning a lot from the process.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 18:14:18

Serial_Worrier wrote:
pstarr wrote:So do all Republican deny global warming?


there is no such thing as "global warming". Another myth by liberals.


Well, let's call it climate change and no we are not the cause, but it's happening - ready for that ice age. It's overdue...........
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby SpringCreekFarm » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 20:51:14

I don't consider less labour as less simple. Sure, it's harder work to cut firewood and do as much of the work in my life myself but I think it's simpler than chasing money and hiring contractors and depending too much on the world around me. I would live an even simpler life if my wife was more into it. Everything requires balance. :)
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby jdmartin » Sat 04 Dec 2010, 01:39:58

SpringCreekFarm wrote:I don't consider less labour as less simple. Sure, it's harder work to cut firewood and do as much of the work in my life myself but I think it's simpler than chasing money and hiring contractors and depending too much on the world around me. I would live an even simpler life if my wife was more into it. Everything requires balance. :)


I agree with this in a lot of ways. I find it's simpler to do a lot of things myself than it is to try to find good people to do them for me. Saving the money ends up being a bonus.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby SpringCreekFarm » Sat 04 Dec 2010, 07:12:10

jdmartin wrote:
SpringCreekFarm wrote:I don't consider less labour as less simple. Sure, it's harder work to cut firewood and do as much of the work in my life myself but I think it's simpler than chasing money and hiring contractors and depending too much on the world around me. I would live an even simpler life if my wife was more into it. Everything requires balance. :)


I agree with this in a lot of ways. I find it's simpler to do a lot of things myself than it is to try to find good people to do them for me. Saving the money ends up being a bonus.


Very true. I think that was one of the reasons I started to learn to do things for myself; contractors of today are largely hacks. They want top dollar to do a job that is rushed and consisting of shoddy workmanship.

On the other hand...it could be argued that we do-it-yourselfers are part of the unemployment problem because we don't employ people to do our work. :P
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Unconventional Ideas » Sat 04 Dec 2010, 07:47:30

Having been in the carpet cleaning industry for 17 years, I can verify that most of my peers are hacks. They talk and act like they are gods. They do the fastest job possible.

I've taken flak for being a slow carpet cleaner; for not spouting the party line.

Thing is, I'm busy; booked a month out. Apparently customers like my approach.
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 05 Dec 2010, 21:16:50

Here are a couple of simplicity related sites. They both relate to sailing as well. Enjoy.

Sailing, simplicity and the pursuit of happiness.

http://sailingsimplicity.com/?cat=9

Sologrande

http://www.sologrande.com/
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby patience » Wed 08 Dec 2010, 16:10:01

We started a long time ago. In 1974 we got the message about PO, and planned our move from the industrial city back to the country. It took until 1978 to achieve that. Built a nice 45 acre homestead and lost it all to circumstances beyond our control.

Started over. By 1999, we had our one acre and home paid for. In 2003, I started a repair shop business at home, and kept it debt free, made some money and built up the homestead aspeccts of our place. Closed the shop and retired this year; wife retired a couple years ago. We do the homestead thing, growing everything except meat, so far. Putting in wood heat, now operating on our own cistern instead of county water system, working on solar PV, cut energy usage, and DIY for almost everything.

No TV since 1978, no movies, no blaring radio. I can hear the chickens, even though we live on a state highway. Not much traffic now. Property taxes are low due to the area where we live, our 2 old pickups are cheap to insure and license, and health insurance is from my wife's last job at affordable rates. Stocked up now, we can live on about half of our income from SS, and a lot less is necessary.

Yeah, wood heat takes some effort, but IMHO, not as much as it would take to work/earn/pay for conventional heat. Remember, if you spend $1,000 for heat in the winter, you have to earn far more just to pay the taxes on that money. How much time does that take? Personally, I'd rather spend a lot less time messing with the wood heat than working the job. :)
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Re: Simplify your life

Unread postby LGW » Fri 03 Feb 2012, 16:51:32

Sold off my car

Threw the fixed line broadband connection in the trash, now using a ~128-220 kbps unlimited wireless EDGE connection via my phone as a modem which costs about $3 a month in my country. Hey it's a bit slow by todays standards for sure, but this means you won't waste immeasurable hours of your life on youtube clips of questionable value.

Trying to focus on things that have a somewhat withstanding value, not just services that give rise to short term economic circulation. I.e. knowledge in mathematics, fixing machines, growing crops, philosophy, etc.
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