[ralfy]

Likely there has been no "us" or "we," only the rich taking advantage of war, the military receiving funds for continued operations, and civilians paying for military spending or becoming part of "collateral damage."

This is likely connected to increasing surveillance and prison systems in various countries.

[onlooker]

Great observation ralfy

[ennui2]

This thread is turning into an ad for Alex Jones. It's not very connected to reality. Like I said. There are some strategic things countries are doing, but there's no evidence of some sort of Hugo Drax Moonraker solution to wipe away overpopulation.

[Hawkcreek]

This thread is turning into an ad for Alex Jones. It's not very connected to reality. Like I said. There are some strategic things countries are doing, but there's no evidence of some sort of Hugo Drax Moonraker solution to wipe away overpopulation.

But don't you see --the lack of evidence is PROOF that it is happening right now!!!
--Insert creepy laugh here--

[careinke]

I'm thinking if we could actually isolate the US from the rest of the world, the US would be just fine. We would have to make some major adjustments, but I don't think any of us would die as a result.

Then we could sit back and watch the rest of the world kill itself.

[jedrider]

Well, low oil prices seem nothing other than trying to snuff out competitors of the USA.

[onlooker]

was that not what "Star Wars" was about building an impregnable barrier in space and on Earth capable of defending against ICBM's and other attacks.

[onlooker]

Well, low oil prices seem nothing other than trying to snuff out competitors of the USA.

Via the shale and fracking boom instrumental in precisely that "low oil prices"

[Tanada]

No jedrider, there is no better explanation for low oil prices other than simple collapsed demand. Certain folks here have tried to pin the blame on troublesome speculators, a cabal of US oil-company fracting wizards--no Saudi America. We can't even blame those nasty muslims at OPEC (who want to steal our vital juices). Just too many poor people everywhere suffering from a decade of peak-plateau poverty, with little money for food and rent, much less a daily drive to the shopping mall.

Strangely enough other than a dip in January I fail to see this huge fall off in oil consumption you are talking about there Pstarr. Perhaps I misunderstood? The latest graphs I can find only go through February 2015 but still, look for yourself consumption was just a skosh under 93 Million bbl/d.

http://www.artberman.com/wp-content/upl ... h-2015.jpg

[Cog]

I'm thinking if we could actually isolate the US from the rest of the world, the US would be just fine. We would have to make some major adjustments, but I don't think any of us would die as a result.

Then we could sit back and watch the rest of the world kill itself.

I would have no problem with that, if we could actually pull it off. Include Canada of course since they are basically Americans that just talk funny.

[zoidberg]

Americans are in a class by themselves were just neighbors. And its you who talk funny we have very little accent. But fortress north America seems like a very good idea. Eurasian craziness is unfixable

[JPL]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34101989

Gas

FFS Gasmon that looks like a typical British shambles to me - I'd swear that is a portable toilet on top of that submarine. Lol

[GregT]

I do NOT think the powers that be have a complete grasp on overshoot and limits to growth. They are just thinking one move ahead on the chessboard rather than seeing all the way to the endgame.

Naturally, a bunch of random guys on an internet forum would have a far better grasp of what's really going on, then the people that are running the world behind the scenes.

[onlooker]

yeah but the problem is whatever TPTB are have been thinking it has not been beneficial for most on the planet and in fact is more and more looking like sheer insanity. One example. Why the heck did we never try to diversity our sources of energy more instead of putting all our eggs into the fossil fuels basket.