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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby Lore » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 13:05:50

pstarr wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:
dissident wrote:Intellectual laziness which translates into wanting to believe any dogma or cult teaching instead of dealing with reality.


Obama just gave a major energy speech today.

Once again he blamed high gasoline prices on evil speculators and promised to enact new government regulations to fix the problem and bring gasoline prices down again. :roll:
Better than the last. As I remember Bush blamed the Axis of Evil and invaded Iraq. Which one is goofier?


I still find it amazing that we spent around two trillion in actual and hidden costs on the war with Iraq and we in return got zip! I'm glad to see Planty is upset with Obama for not bringing the criminals to a speedy trial for the waste of blood and treasury on false pretenses.
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 13:17:29

Lore wrote:I'm glad to see Planty is upset with Obama for not bringing the criminals to a speedy trial for the waste of blood and treasury on false pretenses.
That would mean trying his beloved GW for treason.
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 14:12:32

Lore wrote:I still find it amazing that we spent around two trillion in actual and hidden costs on the war with Iraq and we in return got zip! ... upset with Obama for not bringing the criminals to a speedy trial for the waste of blood and treasury on false pretenses.


Hi Lorey:

Its naive of you to expect Obama to bring the "criminals to a speedy trial" for the war in Iraq when Obama is still waging a war in Afghanistan, recently concluded an unconstitutional war in Libya, is funding the rebels in the civil war in Syria, and threatens war with Iran. :roll:
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby Lore » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 14:30:27

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Lore wrote:I still find it amazing that we spent around two trillion in actual and hidden costs on the war with Iraq and we in return got zip! ... upset with Obama for not bringing the criminals to a speedy trial for the waste of blood and treasury on false pretenses.


Hi Lorey:

Its naive of you to expect Obama to bring the "criminals to a speedy trial" for the war in Iraq when Obama is still waging a war in Afghanistan, recently concluded an unconstitutional war in Libya, is funding the rebels in the civil war in Syria, and threatens war with Iran. :roll:


Sounds very reasonable to me. It's a dereliction of duty. You don't fail to prosecute for justice just because you're busy with other things. It should have taken place three years ago, well before Libya, Syria, and heightened tensions with Iran.

Another beef I have is where is the prosecution based on the 11 deaths with the GOM oil platform spill. It's pretty easy to see who really runs the Government, big business.
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 14:32:48

MSNBC denounces Obama for "style over substance" in his latest attempt to blame high energy prices on evil speculators

Obama playing politics with energy, says MSNBC

Surprising that MSNBC "gets it" that Obama's attempt to blame high energy prices on evil Wall Street speculators is just political posturing that does nothing to solve the problem.

Obama is latest proposal is clearly designed to mislead the public about what causes higher energy prices, rather than to educate the public about the reality of peak oil.

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Obama is misleading the public about what causes higher energy prices
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 14:43:58

Lore wrote: It's a dereliction of duty. You don't fail to prosecute for justice just because you're busy with other things. It should have taken place three years ago, well before Libya, Syria, and heightened tensions with Iran.


Yes.

I made this same point way back when Obama went to the CIA in 2009 and gave a highly publicized speech in which he announced that no one would be punished in any way for torture, misleading intelligence, or anything else they might have done prior to this administration.

IMHO the people who really dropped the ball were the folks in Congress who blocked the impeachment of Bush after the 2006 elections. The dems won a huge majority that year on the promise that they would stop the war in Iraq if they took over Congress, but after taking over Congress Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the other dems who ran Congress squelched all impeachment bills and instead voted for and authorized four more years of war and hundreds more billions to be wasted in Iraq.

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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby Lore » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 15:06:28

Plantagenet wrote:MSNBC denounces Obama for "style over substance" in his latest attempt to blame high energy prices on evil speculators

Obama playing politics with energy, says MSNBC

Surprising that MSNBC "gets it" that Obama's attempt to blame high energy prices on evil Wall Street speculators is just political posturing that does nothing to solve the problem.

Obama is latest proposal is clearly designed to mislead the public about what causes higher energy prices, rather than to educate the public about the reality of peak oil.

Obama is misleading the public about what causes higher energy prices


MSNBC is a big business news network, why would anyone be surprised at their reaction. The other side says we only have to drill more, so it seems no one in government let's on that they get it.
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 17:16:17

I picked up my pile of mail today, and right on top was Time Magazine with a cover that said: "THE TRUTH ABOUT OIL" with a big oil drop for the cover photograph.

This is it, I thought. If Time Magazine has a big article about peak oil, this will put it right into the national conversation.

So I sat down and read it first thing. Its not a bad article...it discusses Bakken oil and sub-salt Brazil oil and tar sands and oil shales and china and saudi arabia. It talks about oil spikes and economic recessions and booms and busts.

But it doesn't even mention peak oil.

Not a word. I couldn't believe it. How the heck does Time Magazine have the gall to pretend to tell "the truth" about oil without even mentioning peak oil

Damn. :badgrin:
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby radon » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 17:32:48

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Damn. :badgrin:


This Obama's picture is awesome.
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Re: Public Awareness of PO - How will it shape the markets?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 17 Apr 2012, 18:54:08

Plantagenet wrote:I picked up my pile of mail today, and right on top was Time Magazine with a cover that said: "THE TRUTH ABOUT OIL" with a big oil drop for the cover photograph.

This is it, I thought. If Time Magazine has a big article about peak oil, this will put it right into the national conversation.

So I sat down and read it first thing. Its not a bad article...it discusses Bakken oil and sub-salt Brazil oil and tar sands and oil shales and china and saudi arabia. It talks about oil spikes and economic recessions and booms and busts.

But it doesn't even mention peak oil.

Not a word. I couldn't believe it. How the heck does Time Magazine have the gall to pretend to tell "the truth" about oil without even mentioning peak oil

Damn. :badgrin:


Everyone uses google. Everyone picks up punch lines and googles them. The punch line can be left out, but it's still peak oil. Admin will notice a significant spike in the next weeks from this article, which would have been considerably larger had the punch line been spelled out for the ignorant. If big oil and the MSM could, they would patent the term and subvert it completely.
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