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[Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

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Re: Best chicken breed for small homestead...

Unread postby Heineken » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 15:23:40

You should post this on the chicken/poultry thread. Do a search and you will find it.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby WyoDutch » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 17:16:04

SpringCreekFarm wrote:Got the chicken run for the coop finished today. Here is a picture of the main chicken coop and run. I had once considered tearing this building down but I'm glad I reconsidered, now that it is finished.


Now that is one FINE coop... It reminds me of the chicken coops that were a fixture on every farm (and many small-town backyards) when I was but a yute.
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Re: Best chicken breed for small homestead...

Unread postby darwinsdog » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 17:34:04

Don't shoot that chicken, Polemic !!! :shock:
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Re: Best chicken breed for small homestead...

Unread postby steam_cannon » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 19:52:07

darwinsdog wrote:Don't shoot that chicken, Polemic !!! :shock:


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Re: Best chicken breed for small homestead...

Unread postby Gothor » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 21:03:16

Polemic wrote:I've heard and read good stuff about Rhode Island Reds.

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That's probably the breed I'll try to get when I eventually get chickens.
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Re: Best chicken breed for small homestead...

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 21:39:40

SILENTTODD wrote:Really? I'll have to look into those. I'll need something loud to wake me up in the morning when I won't be able to get batteries for my alarm clocks anymore!


Problem is they gripe and complain loudly all day.....
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby Heineken » Sat 19 Jul 2008, 12:52:53

Given the cost of commercial feed, I'd think foraging ability was the single most important factor in chicken breed selection. That, plus an efficient ratio of feed conversion to animal protein.

Previously I've free-ranged Barred Rocks and White Rocks and few individuals of oddball breeds like Speckled Sussex and Black Australorp. The rocks were huge eaters but had a gentle temperament. I butchered and dressed a few but found the meat to be tough. I'm not hard-hearted enough to keep chickens confined to a small space all their brief lives to ensure the meat is tender.

If I keep chickens again it will be leghorns for egg production. Some sort of leghorn that is tough (as in disease resistant) and that has exceptional foraging ability (any suggestions?). I'd guess that egg production is achieved more efficiently than meat production (and, obviously, on a more ongoing basis). At present, egg prices still aren't high enough to make this worth the trouble to me, though.

I would use the tractor method and use my chicken coop just for getting them through our relatively mild winters.

Leghorns and breeds with large combs are not appropriate for northerners unless they have heated coops (and are willing to pay for that heat!).
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby Heineken » Sun 20 Jul 2008, 07:51:28

No, my chicken-butchering days are over, so the particularities of processing the corpses are irrelevant to me now. I find the whole process too emotionally unpleasant. This is not to criticize others who do it; it just relates to what feels right for me. As I said, if I keep chickens again it will be for eggs only.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby JJ » Sun 20 Jul 2008, 08:02:18

Heineken wrote:No, my chicken-butchering days are over, so the particularities of processing the corpses are irrelevant to me now. I find the whole process too emotionally unpleasant. This is not to criticize others who do it; it just relates to what feels right for me. As I said, if I keep chickens again it will be for eggs only.


when we had chickens, we had a particularly mean fighting cock someone abandoned on us. It always attacked Bing when she went to get the eggs. One day I decided to kill it. I had the bolo (machete) and a chopping block. Bing said "no, let me". Instead of chopping off its head right away, she sawed it off. It took a long time, and cars were slowing down to watch. I was thinking here come the cops, but no. We pressure cooked it for eight hours. It was awful.

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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 20 Jul 2008, 10:37:02

Heineken wrote:
A real problem with McMurray (and perhaps other mail-order sources) is that you have to buy a minimum of 25 birds, which in my case is about 10 or 15 beyond what I'd want for egg production for our needs.


I usually get "straight run" and eat the roosters, which leaves about a dozen hens.

But it might be good to find a local source anyway.

I was afraid mail order chicken sales would stop completely due to avian flu fears. So far we seem to be safe from that (for the moment).

I'm still not sure which kind to get next Spring, whether to get ones that have done well in the past, or try another breed such as those Rose Comb Brown Leghorns.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 20 Jul 2008, 12:00:09

iamron wrote:anyone have any suggestions on how to keep them quiet?


As far as I know, there is no way to keep a rooster from crowing.

Hens also can be noisy, depending on the breed.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby iamron » Mon 21 Jul 2008, 09:10:03

I was thinking of maybe keeping the roosters in a smaller area that although ventilated would have some sound proofing so the noise not carry too far, or how about a dog collar tha is used to stop barking, everytime the dog barks it sends a small electrical shock so discourages barking , may discourage crowing also, hahaha
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Mon 21 Jul 2008, 09:13:14

iamron wrote:anyone have any suggestions on how to keep them quiet?


I only know one way to keep them quiet.

Eat them.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby mystiek » Fri 25 Jul 2008, 01:17:25

Are the chickens on strike? We've been looking for fresh eggs, our friends who run a CSA farm said the chickens are hardly laying any eggs and apparently other farms have seen a decline in production. Is anyone else experiencing this-possibly due to the heat.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby CarlinsDarlin » Fri 25 Jul 2008, 06:08:00

mystie,
My chickens usually go on strike during the hottest part of summer - or at least a slowdown if not a strike :) - so it wouldn't surprise me. If I were a chicken I wouldn't be working too hard in this heat either :lol:
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 25 Jul 2008, 11:12:49

We still get a few eggs every day, but I mean a few, like 3, from over a dozen hens. Very high temps do seem to stop laying for most hens.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby mystiek » Fri 25 Jul 2008, 11:22:55

Thanks for the info-I'll pass it on. At least I was able to meet the chickens that lay green eggs (when they ever get around to it!!!)
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby LittleBoPeak » Fri 25 Jul 2008, 15:36:05

My chickens are laying fine in the South Carolina heat and humidity. I collected 11 from my 15 hens yesterday. They consistently lay 8 - 12 a day.
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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby CarlinsDarlin » Wed 10 Sep 2008, 12:36:26

burton,
sounds like a fun weekend! You're off to a good start with the chickens - unless of course you captured someone's pet :) and they come looking for it! :)

Yes, about six months old is when hens start laying. Could be a month either way, though, so don't be disappointed if it takes a couple more weeks. And also, because the days are getting shorter, don't expect her to be in full production mode until spring. They usually slack off some during the fall and winter.

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Re: [Food] Production - Poultry (was Backyard Chickens)

Unread postby burtonridr » Wed 10 Sep 2008, 12:48:54

CarlinsDarlin wrote:burton, sounds like a fun weekend! You're off to a good start with the chickens - unless of course you captured someone's pet :) and they come looking for it! :)
Yes, about six months old is when hens start laying. Could be a month either way, though, so don't be disappointed if it takes a couple more weeks. And also, because the days are getting shorter, don't expect her to be in full production mode until spring. They usually slack off some during the fall and winter.
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Yea that is what I have been hearing.... I will be moving the rabbits into the shed during the cold parts of the year, which the chickens have access to. I want to put a heat lamp in the shed during the winter.

When should I have the light turned on? my big reason for the heat lamp in the shed was to keep the rabbit water bottles from freezing at night and give them a little extra heat, though I doubt they really need it. If I keep the light on all night will it negatively affect the chickens laying?
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