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mos6507 wrote:I've been following the EESTOR thing closely ever since that meeting recording was leaked. Some of the recent developments include contracting with a company to build the EESU enclosures with the voltage-step-down circuitry for Zenn. Supposedly Zenn should have the first EESUs for internal testing before the end of the year. So I'm really expecting them to take the lid off the subterfuge very soon, or be exposed as a very realistic pump and dump scam, one way or another. But I don't see things festering year upon year anymore.
It's been the next big deal forever. When is that gall durned tipping point anywho?Revi wrote:Good one Pstarr.
Wasn't Zenn supposed to come out with an Eestore car by now?
What's the holdup?
mos6507 wrote:Zenn is really nothing more than a shell IP company. The highway Zenn will (if it comes out) be nothing but a short-run proof of concept. The true rollout will happen if and when Zenn licenses its drive system to the big players. Zenn will then probably stop producing vehicles and be the dead-weight middle-men that they really are. As it is now, they have produced a tiny number of low speed vehicles.
This weird case of a marginal company being somehow at the right place at the right time to cut a sweetheart deal with EESTOR is what raises suspicions of a pump and dump. I mean, why did Zenn get there first to cut this deal instead of any other company?
But it is what it is.
liammcglynn wrote:Dick Weir understands his competitive advantage and will use it.
Yes. Grand stories of perpetual energy and black light. Genies in Bottles.BigTex wrote:liammcglynn wrote:Dick Weir understands his competitive advantage and will use it.
What remains to be seen is what precisely his competitive advantage is.
I often wonder if Weir's competitive advantage isn't his storytelling ability.
liammcglynn wrote:I was hoping that Peak Oil would be a forum for sharing information and meaningful analysis. Refutation without explanation or substantive debate has no value and our communities need value. If you are familiar with Barite ultracapacitor research or EEStor's approach for constructing such a device, please share your insights.
Is this forum just a waste of time? Do you believe that, as a community, you cannot have an impact - that you cannot help others prepare for and survive the looming crisis? EEStor has certainly not inspired our confidence with their repeated delays. And we can question claims of a technological breakthrough in an area that has seen so much research.
However, when a company goes to UL with a product for certification and satisfies a defense contractor with testing, should that not give us pause to consider the possibility that they are genuine? We cannot rule out a grand fraud but rational analysis cannot reach certainty on such criminality.
I mean no offense. I was just hoping for more.
liammcglynn wrote:However, when a company goes to UL with a product for certification and satisfies a defense contractor with testing, should that not give us pause to consider the possibility that they are genuine? We cannot rule out a grand fraud but rational analysis cannot reach certainty on such criminality.
As an peak-aware energy architect you must appreciate that these executives are working under completely different assumptions than I am. They assume BAU growth-dependent economic/business model that expects current debt paid to be back with future increased energy/financial income. This will not be.liammcglynn wrote:pstarr wrote:Those of us who have been here a while have gotten used to having our hearts broken. Now we are hard, bitter, cynical and probably beyond repair.
Mos, BAU is good. That would be me if I even cared anymore.
If you have been here a while, you have valuable information, useful information. As a technology architect, I gather and form data into compelling executive presentations. In a sense, that is just another type of forum with its own set of frustrations and obstacles. Even when I succeed in saving a company many millions of dollars, I might have to watch helplessly as the corporation collapses under the weight of toxic investments.
I am not apathetic for myself at all. Look at my location. I have done my own homework and preparations.liammcglynn wrote:I know that we cannot stop or even slow the coming oil crisis and the unfathomable impact on the global food supply but I, like you, need an outlet for my frustration. Perhaps it doesn't matter if we say anything meaningful. After all, who is really listening? Still, I have my own plan, feeble as it is, to meet the coming crisis. Surely, in such a forum, I am not unique. We all have plans and all our individual plans are likewise feeble because they are individual. This may not be a forum for fostering communal efforts but our collective knowledge may open doors.
Your self-effacement indicates that you are not entirely resigned to apathy. I suspect that you are just a fighter in an empty ring.
liammcglynn wrote: You are right, we cannot repay. The economic situation relates to EEStor and EVs in general because hyperinflation seems a near certainty in the not too distant future and a currency collapse would precipitate a supply disruption. This disruption would be a temporary but devastating fuel crisis in the US. Thus, my desire for an EV with decent range and highway capabilities.
Mos, I have always bridged the gap between Ludditism and Techtopianism. I was a computer programmer before i became involved in the organic food industry and got a Masters degree in Sustainable Systems. That is why I have been a bit of an enigma here.mos6507 wrote:pstarr, your tone has changed considerably from when I left. I think you should leave a little more variability in your vision of the future. If there is anything the last year has taught me, is not to be too certain of how things are going to play out.
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