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AAA wrote: The corporate world is what keeps the US as the leader.
If I, a 26yr old white male with blond hair and blue eyes usually dressed in business casual, walked around those areas I might as well wear a neon target.
oldchuck wrote:For some reason you are probably trapped and trying to find a way out. So it's not really a place you are looking for but for a way out of the trap. No doubt you have real constraints but also you may have a psychological roadblock. When I was in high school feeling trapped I used to day dream of escaping to a south sea island paradise. Don't let this forum be your day dream of escaping to a south sea island. Just do it.
Have you guys seen that Strategic Relocation book?
Ludi wrote:AAA wrote: we plan on making it self-sufficient in about 15 years..
Why such a long time-frame?
patience wrote:There are many other factors. How about a spreadsheet to summarize what we know about general areas of the US and other countries, in terms of sustainable living? This is a topic of ongoing interest here, I think.
AAA wrote:Nobody lives there full-time and we don't plan on moving there for another 13 years and I figure it will take a couple of years to get everything up and running.
Our cowhands have their own property just west of our place so they don't actually live on our place.
Ludi wrote:I agree parts of the Southwest are likely to be a good location if you're concerned about "Zombie Hordes" because almost no one is prepared to try to live in the desert or mountains there. Obviously you need to know what you're doing!
mos6507 wrote:If you believe that people will become more migratory as doom approacheth, then areas that rank highest might actually be worse places to go as they will be #1 trendy bugout locations and hence get spoiled by too much immigration.
mos6507 wrote:You're going to need a few of these:
I will tell you why I chose Vermont as my destination; my understanding of the state based on my research suggests the following*: First, Vermont is sparsely populated with about 630,000 residents. It has abundant water and arable land with ample access to firewood which of course will be critical for woodstove and pellet stove heating as home heating oil, the predominant means of heating in the Northeast, becomes increasingly unaffordable. ...The state also has an abundance of small farms, a thriving organic dairy industry, and a strong emphasis on eating and buying local.....Also, an Amtrak line runs from Montreal to New York City, and trains can be boarded daily from Rutland to the Big Apple...Perhaps most enticing about Vermont is the remarkable environmental consciousness of the majority of its citizens and the sense of community and mutual support they demonstrate. In fact, I have never known a state, and I have lived in many, where cooperation is as valued as it is in Vermont. A great deal of focus is now being placed by Vermonters on renewable energy with widespread Peak Oil awareness and preparation.
If you feel motivated to relocate, be advised: the sooner the better. Time is running out.
• Saddened by the ongoing loss of farm land and open space of Vermont?
• Dismayed that most of our environmental problems continue to get worse?
• Worried about the quality of life your children and grand children will have?
• Concerned that because of population growth the dependence on foreign oil will increase from 55% now to 78% by 2025?
• Convinced that we can not have infinite growth with finite resources?
mos6507 wrote:oldchuck wrote:By the way, how do you think Vermont got those "granola demographics?" Certainly wasn't like that when I was a kid.
The hippies moved to places like Brattleboro.
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