THE Iran Thread pt 4 (merged)

[bratticus]

:razz: We should start shipping them potable water by the supertanker load. Sell it to them for say $10 per barrel. The water to oil ratio will become the new world monetary standard and the dollar will get pegged to it as well as all other world currencies.

Good idea! We could use sail-powered ships.

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[vtsnowedin]

Nope as long as they have oil to sell we will use bunker oil to run the ships or LNG. Now if we could figure a way to use the same ship for both cargoes without contamination we could haul loaded both ways, A shippers fondest dream.

[bratticus]

:wink: Nope as long as they have oil to sell we will use bunker oil to run the ships or LNG.

Nope, as soon as the price of oil make it untenable things will have to change since someone with a non-oil solution will have the cheapest solution.

[vtsnowedin]

When the none oil solution is infact the cheapest solution then of course you are correct. I just expect that oil will be the cheapest solution for quite a while yet. Not that sails and kites wont be used when the wind is blowing in a favorable direction to reduce costs but against a headwind or a storm your fossil fueled ship has such an advantage they will be used as long as it is at all feasable.
All the cars in America would be cut up for scrap long before FF shipping would stop the fuel efficency of ships being what it is and the fickleness of the wind being what it is.

[Munqi]

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8707210851


Am i just being paranoid or does it seem like Iran is doing everything it can to make Obama look bad?

[dissident]

Why, not? Four more years of Bushevism will further degrade the US as a superpower.

[3aidlillahi]

Am i just being paranoid or does it seem like Iran is doing everything it can to make Obama look bad?

They are doing this because they hate the fact he's Sunni and not Shi'a.

[mos6507]

Am i just being paranoid or does it seem like Iran is doing everything it can to make Obama look bad?

More like they want to make themselves look bad to everyone except the arab street.

[Taghayee]

Am i just being paranoid or does it seem like Iran is doing everything it can to make Obama look bad?

They are doing this because they hate the fact he's Sunni and not Shi'a.

I didnt know that Palestinians were shias as well
Sunnis used to give Hamas 15k for each suicide attack. Iran gave them a democratic victory and a dynamic organization where suicide attacks werent the only item on hte menu but a whole range of other social issues. Iran is smart and Arabs are not when it comes to politics and a whole lot of other things. Sectarianism is another form of tribalism and in turn is another handicap of the Arabs. I mean can you name me one Suuni or Arab regime that has done more good to Arabs or Sunnis than Persians....both now and in the past? Your best achievement was Taliban or Alqaida that achieved marvels in the fields of beheading and stupidity.
So when it comes to Persians just keep shshhh and observe as they are your teachers now and have been in hte past. Had tribalism been any prize you Arabs would have actually achieved something instead of fighting over a well or a river.

[Taghayee]

^ Its amazing that you Arabs/Sunnis remember your faith only when it comes to negating Iran. The real sunni that obama is, he never mentions his faith or his middle name.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8707210851


Am i just being paranoid or does it seem like Iran is doing everything it can to make Obama look bad?

Iran is simply taking advantage of the situation/financial crisis.

[Fishman]

Iran making a Democratic president look bad, economic distress, inexperienced president, oil problems. Didn't we play this one before? Oh wait, that was the Carter administration.

[mystiek]

Maybe it has to do with the chatter about Israel feeling more pressure to strike Iran's nuclear facilities before Bush leaves office IF Obama gets the presidency. I think Iran wants to do their little games to buy them time to accomplish the goals of the apocalyptic mentality President M.Amadinij. with respect to their nuclear program.

[Dreamtwister]

I walked away from that story with an entirely different perspective: Iran is dictating terms to the US.

[mystiek]

I agree dreamtwister-you can definitely look at their statements in different manners, but sometimes its not easy to make sense of crazy talk.

[mos6507]

I agree dreamtwister-you can definitely look at their statements in different manners, but sometimes its not easy to make sense of crazy talk.

Let these blowhards start WWIII for all I care, but the constant dick wagging is just so damn tedious. Iran, Russia, Venezuela... All I can think of is this famous video clip:

[flash width=425 height=344]http://www.youtube.com/v/l9gm5xAjT2w&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]

[3aidlillahi]

Am i just being paranoid or does it seem like Iran is doing everything it can to make Obama look bad?

They are doing this because they hate the fact he's Sunni and not Shi'a.

I didnt know that Palestinians were shias as well
Sunnis used to give Hamas 15k for each suicide attack. Iran gave them a democratic victory and a dynamic organization where suicide attacks werent the only item on hte menu but a whole range of other social issues. Iran is smart and Arabs are not when it comes to politics and a whole lot of other things. Sectarianism is another form of tribalism and in turn is another handicap of the Arabs. I mean can you name me one Suuni or Arab regime that has done more good to Arabs or Sunnis than Persians....both now and in the past? Your best achievement was Taliban or Alqaida that achieved marvels in the fields of beheading and stupidity.
So when it comes to Persians just keep shshhh and observe as they are your teachers now and have been in hte past. Had tribalism been any prize you Arabs would have actually achieved something instead of fighting over a well or a river.

Who's Arab? I'm as white as snow and you keep referring to me as "you Arabs".

Taliban are generally Pathan, not Arab.

Like wow. I can't believe you fell for that. I was playing up the myth that he's a Muslim as a JOKE and your racist self fell for it. Nice.

[Dreamtwister]

Let these blowhards start WWIII for all I care, but the constant dick wagging is just so damn tedious. Iran, Russia, Venezuela...

I can't quite put my finger on it, but I get the distinct impression there are a couple of countries missing from that list.

[Taghayee]

Am i just being paranoid or does it seem like Iran is doing everything it can to make Obama look bad?

They are doing this because they hate the fact he's Sunni and not Shi'a.

I didnt know that Palestinians were shias as well
Sunnis used to give Hamas 15k for each suicide attack. Iran gave them a democratic victory and a dynamic organization where suicide attacks werent the only item on hte menu but a whole range of other social issues. Iran is smart and Arabs are not when it comes to politics and a whole lot of other things. Sectarianism is another form of tribalism and in turn is another handicap of the Arabs. I mean can you name me one Suuni or Arab regime that has done more good to Arabs or Sunnis than Persians....both now and in the past? Your best achievement was Taliban or Alqaida that achieved marvels in the fields of beheading and stupidity.
So when it comes to Persians just keep shshhh and observe as they are your teachers now and have been in hte past. Had tribalism been any prize you Arabs would have actually achieved something instead of fighting over a well or a river.

Who's Arab? I'm as white as snow and you keep referring to me as "you Arabs".

Taliban are generally Pathan, not Arab.

Like wow. I can't believe you fell for that. I was playing up the myth that he's a Muslim as a JOKE and your racist self fell for it. Nice.

Your name, your avatar, your location- 'Alif Lam Mim', and your retarded opinion all led me to believe you are an Arab. Having said that let me say this that its not the first time that I come across an Arab who becomes something else- for example the owner of the Italian restaurant down the road from me is not Italian, he is cough cough. Maybe you are like Bizzaro Rcio (the restaurant owner).
But going back to what you said, I really am fed up with you Arabs and your shia-sunni worldview. Its like all that oil money went towards tattooing these two words in your brains besides buying SUVs and philipino maids.

[3aidlillahi]

Your name, your avatar, and your retarded opinion all led me to believe you are an Arab. Having said that let me say this that its not the first time that I come across an Arab who becomes something else

Again, I'm not Arab. I'm white. Only a quarter (if that) of all Sunnis are Arab. I don't know how you couldn't read what I said earlier.

My name is in Arabic. Just because an black guy has a African or Arabic name doesn't mean that he's from the Congo.

My avatar is of a Muslim praying. I'm a Muslim. That's not necessarily an Arab thing.

To think that I've "become" something else is ridiculous. Go through my other posts. I've always identified myself as a white American, born and bred. You UAC types can believe whatever you want - but when you believe ridiculous falsehoods, you prove your ignorance, insanity and paranoia.

But going back to what you said, I really am fed up with you Arabs and your shia-sunni worldview.

It was a joke about what dumbass people similar to yourself think of Obama, that he is a Muslim. I then played on the stereotype that many ignorant non-Muslims have of the great rift between Sunni and Shi'a, that the Iranians would give a shit over how he prays.

[Taghayee]

I apologize for being offensive. Its just that I am sick and tired of Arab nationalists and their shia/sunni worldview.