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shakespear1 wrote:What ever happened to Borax?
I recall many years ago there was a detergent which had borax in it. There was this commercial of a long wagon team hauling the stuff across some salt flats in the US.
Is borax such good stuff?
Heineken wrote:I think our society and its corporate masters have taken "cleanliness" to ridiculous extremes that may actually be harmful to our health in the long run, such as by promoting antimicrobial resistance, desiccated skin, allergies, and high body burdens of potentially harmful synthetic chemicals. These too are important health issues.
nwildmand wrote:Heineken wrote:I think our society and its corporate masters have taken "cleanliness" to ridiculous extremes that may actually be harmful to our health in the long run, such as by promoting antimicrobial resistance, desiccated skin, allergies, and high body burdens of potentially harmful synthetic chemicals. These too are important health issues.
hell when i get a cut on my dirty hands i dont even wash them, i just put some electrical tape on the wound so i can keep on working.
i never get sick, i believe it is because i do not hide from or fear the germs.
Real men like to strip down, jump in the mud, snort and wrestle with pigs as a means to toughen theirselves.
Make yourself impervyous to microbial varmints by takin' it up a notch. Why settle for being mildy unhigenic, when you can be downrat filthy? EEEEE-HHHAAAA!!
and i still do get downright filthy from time to time. maybe the reason i dont get sick is because i am impervious.
Chemo wrote:Well thanks for the welcome Heineken. You are correct about laundry detergents not being necessary for farm work clothes, at least in the short to medium term. I go to work daily in an office and have found that detergent-less washing does not cut the mustard with some stains. Coconut oil stains from laksa for instance. However with a very soft water supply here, using the recommended full scoop of powder in the old front loader is not needed, for most loads a third or a quarter is all that is required.
Over years I have avoided using much in the way of detergents. Rarely wash the car, and then rarely use detergent. Have not bought shampoo for years - the operative syllable is "sham" IMHO. Some will go "Ewww" as they have been conditioned to do over the past fifty years or so. Yes I know that seems like a pun but it isn't.
Just on the subject of septic systems, I have not had to live with them for years but in Australia, shower, kitchen and laundry water are/were rarely connected to a tank. They used a separate disposal system. The kitchen sink had a grease trap and the water from it and the shower and laundry then went directly to a sump.
Laurasia wrote:Well, I'm down to quarter-rations now on my weekly wash. I'm tired of always running out of laundry detergent so cutting its use by 75% has a certain charm.
Thank you Chemo for the info, particularly about boracic acid, and about boiling certain articles of laundry. Thanks Heineken for starting this thread about that most interesting of subjects, doing the laundry (and I'm not being sarcastic either - all the women of my family have enjoyed doing laundry) Of course the women at work all think I'm totally bonkers, but pretty harmless.
Well, time to put the second load onto the airers.
Vacuuming: About 15 years ago I needed a vacuum and didn't think much of it when buying a second-hand 1960s Kenmore for cheep, which just happened to have a 2-speed motor switch on the back. The High setting is 800 watts, which is pretty standard for middle-of-the-road vacuums. But the Low setting is about 400 watts and provides more than sufficient suction for routine cleaning. It also turns out that 2-speed vacuums are fairly rare, so I got lucky: half the power consumption for almost all the cleaning. We're planning a design project on vacuums for later this year. The goal is 400 watts for most cleaning applications, with a reusable cloth bag and option for disposable bag liners. (Note, Miele vacuums presently have a variable power control that goes down to 400 watts, so there is a solution available right now; prices range about $300 - 600 which is about middle to upper middle price range for a good vacuum.
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