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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby M_B_S » Tue 19 Jun 2018, 02:37:06

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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby Karle » Wed 20 Jun 2018, 17:15:51

Maybe it is a bit warmer than usual since some weeks. But it is not bad, it is good. Everythings grows like mad, not like last year or 2013, when farmers were desperate because of snow until late April. So what is the problem? If there is climate change (which has always been) right now it is in or favour.
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby energy investor » Wed 20 Jun 2018, 19:26:31

Hi Guys,

Why did Donald Trump terminate the Paris 2015 Accord commitments for USA?

You all assume he is mad. Well, I agree he is pretty loopy.

But if you took the time to research the information he was provided with, you would see him as the most rational and well informed of the world's leaders.

1. With all the BRICS and most of the emerging economies not signing up to any reduction, the USD100 billion p.a. contribution to them from those trying to reduce CO2 and CH4 emissions is bizarre and unnecessary.
2. With 90% of the world's population aspiring to enjoy the life style of the wealthy 10%, how rational is it to pursue CO2 emissions that prejudice the 10%'s prosperity? It is ridiculous to presume that atmospheric CO2 can be reduced by any abstinence of the 10%. (and that would be the case, even if the world's oceans were not already emitting more CO2 than humans!)
3. It is not competent to silence all opposition when the climate is again changing with massing polar ice (despite the crap about it reducing) and the temperature of the global atmosphere having reduced by 0.5 degrees since 2016 according to raw satellite data.
4. It isn't only Germany building new coal fired power plants but also Japan, who will build at least six and import US coal. China has indicated they may double their CO2 emissions by 2030 and India to treble their's during the same time-frame.
5. Those posting here to express aspirations to "save the world at someone else's expense" need to realise that the low EROEI of all solar and wind systems if rolled out to accommodate 100% of energy demand, would probably condemn nations to a reduction of between 20-50% of their current economic performance. Be realistic.... and before criticising this statement just look at how stupid Germany has been ditching nukes to meet a Merkel whim. They now have among the highest EU electrical energy costs.
6. The science on climate change is by no means settled, nor are renewable technologies either scalable enough or sophisticated enough to bear the energy demand load after the vilification of fossil fuels runs its course.
7. I caution you all to consider the fact that no-one has demonstrated that 0.04 of one percent actually can cause global warming (despite the hubris of declaring that anyone who disagrees with AGW is a "flat earth" lunatic). It is still an unproven theory! Not only is it as yet unproven, but it contradicts the abundant geological evidence of 2.5 million years of repeated Milankovich cycles of 90,000 years freeze and 10-12,000 years of thaw. Somehow we humans have cancelled out the next (and probably imminent) ice age? Where is the study of what caused ice ages to happen and how did cosmic rays and solar flux affect earthquakes, volcanism and the nucleation of clouds to cause extreme rain events? There are huge gaps of knowledge about causation. Yet the science is somehow settled? That is such crap even a child could point out the spurious holes in the logic.
7. I caution you to consider whether the advent of the eleven year solar cycles numbers 25, 26 and 27 will cause severe atmospheric cooling or not. The AGW alarmists and IPCC faux consensus is that at best the unfolding Eddy Grand Solar Minimum, which has already started with solar cycle 24, will be sidelined by human CO2 emissions. I wonder if anyone was so brash at the start of the various earlier Grand Solar Minima that occurred during the mini ice age - like the Maunder Minimum.

OK....I love the idea that renewables will eventually save the day because fossil fuels are finite. Also that is where my investments lie. I also hate the idea of an ice age because very few humans survived the last one. Because all our known history has unfolded since the last ice age ended, there are huge gaps in our knowledge.

But meantime, I find myself chuckling at the world's greatest fraud...AGW theory and the Peace Prizes for a railroad engineer and a has-been politician that these have conjured up.

But only retired guys like Prof. Freeman Dyson and I can afford that luxury. The rest get pilloried or fired for their candor.

https://youtu.be/BiKfWdXXfIs

Oh and BTW, next time you vilify that bozo Donald Trump about his decision on the Paris Accords, try researching what he knows that you do not. It is out there in cyber space if you really want to find it.

Otherwise continue in your delusions, after all they may be more pleasant than reality delivers.
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby M_B_S » Wed 20 Jun 2018, 22:04:32

Thanks for your opinion and long post.

But you are wrong on GW .

The signature of Mass Extinctions are written in the earth crust.
And CO2 was higher @ any Extinction Event we found so far.
http://www.johnenglander.net/co2-levels ... on-events/
So read the facts.

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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby M_B_S » Thu 21 Jun 2018, 03:29:13

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Under a Green Sky: Global Warming, the Mass Extinctions of the Past, and What They Can Tell Us About Our Future
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“A sobering and valuable perspective . . .” (Science)
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 22 Jun 2018, 05:01:08

Just so the point doesn't get buried in the large font and the rants:

in Germany
since 2013...Hard coal has fallen by just over a quarter...


(From the link above)

Not that they shouldn't have done even better, and globally we are certainly in trouble wrt not reducing fossil-death-fuel burning, but the recent history in Germany wrt coal use, particularly, is not quite as horrific as some seem to want to portray it.
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 22 Jun 2018, 08:11:39

dohboi wrote:Just so the point doesn't get buried in the large font and the rants:

in Germany
since 2013...Hard coal has fallen by just over a quarter...


(From the link above)

Not that they shouldn't have done even better, and globally we are certainly in trouble wrt not reducing fossil-death-fuel burning, but the recent history in Germany wrt coal use, particularly, is not quite as horrific as some seem to want to portray it.


Considering that both Natural Gas and Soft Coal (aka Lignite aka Brown Coal) consumption increased in the same period I wouldn't be crowing so loudly.
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Fri 22 Jun 2018, 13:00:53

Careful there folks, you are challenging the canon of AGW and the climate change Puritans will cast you out of the community of AGW fanaticism if you note the greening of the planet or other negative feedbacks that moderate the effect of GHGs.

You see, in the world of climate fanaticism, everybody must only discuss positve feedbacks that accelerate warming. You must carefully exclude all contrary evidence and datasets, while insisting that your closed mind is "Scientific".
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby kublikhan » Fri 22 Jun 2018, 17:48:53

Karle wrote:Maybe it is a bit warmer than usual since some weeks. But it is not bad, it is good. Everythings grows like mad, not like last year or 2013, when farmers were desperate because of snow until late April. So what is the problem? If there is climate change (which has always been) right now it is in or favour.
There are also factors that are not in our favor. Such as sea level rise:

Ask nearly anyone in the Miami area about flooding and they’ll have an anecdote to share. Many will also tell you that it’s happening more and more frequently. The data backs them up. It’s easy to think that the only communities suffering from sea level rise are far-flung and remote. And while places like the Solomon Islands and Kiribati are indeed facing particularly dramatic challenges, they aren’t the only ones being forced to grapple with the issue. Sea levels are rising around the world, and in the US, south Florida is ground zero – as much for the adaptation strategies it is attempting as for the risk that it bears.

Water levels here are rising especially quickly. With tides higher than they have been in decades – and far higher than when this swampy, tropical corner of the US began to be drained and built on a century ago – many of south Florida’s drainage systems and seawalls are no longer enough. That means not only more flooding, but challenges for the infrastructure that residents depend on every day, from septic tanks to wells. “The consequences of sea level rise are going to occur way before the high tide reaches your doorstep.”

Look beyond all the glass and steel, though, and – despite the federal government’s sidelining of the issue – there’s another thrum of activity. It’s the wastewater treatment plant constructing new buildings five feet higher than the old ones. The 105 miles (169km) of roads being raised in Miami Beach. The new shopping mall built with flood gates. The 116 tidal valves installed in Fort Lauderdale. The seawalls being raised and repaired.

Not only are sea levels rising, but the pace seems to be accelerating. Coastal communities are already experiencing more storms and extremely high tides known as king tides. In the same study, Wdowinski found there were a total of 16 flood events in Miami Beach from 1998 to 2005. From 2006 to 2013, there were 33.

Although the timing of king tides results from the positions of the Sun, Moon and Earth, rising seas heighten their effect. At extreme high tides, water levels have surged to an inch below the Intracoastal Waterway, says Jennifer Jurado, Broward County’s chief resiliency officer. “Once that’s breached, you’re open to the ocean – the supply of water is endless.
Miami’s fight against rising seas

And this has implications beyond just flooding:
Although flooding is the obvious consequence of rising sea levels, there are plenty of other effects to consider — none of them good.

It will contaminate our drinking water
As the rising sea crawls farther and farther up the shore, in many places it will seep into the freshwater sources in the ground that many coastal areas rely on for their drinking water. These underground water sources, called aquifers, are crucial springs of freshwater — in fact, groundwater accounts for most of the planet's freshwater.

It will interfere with farming
Those same freshwater sources we use for drinking also supply the water we use for irrigation. The problems here are the same: The intruding sea could make these groundwater sources saltier. Saltwater can stunt or even kill crops, but creating freshwater from saltwater is a costly and unsustainable practice.

It will hurt the economy
The tourism and real-estate industries in coastal areas are likely to take a hit as prime beachfront properties and recreational areas are washed away by rising waters.
Sea-level rise will cause more than flooding — these 5 other impacts of rising oceans are just as bad
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 25 Jun 2018, 00:33:58

Hundreds march in Berlin to demand an end to using coal

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

Hundreds of protesters are marching through the German capital to demand an end to burning coal to produce electricity.

The demonstrators — many of them families pushing strollers, people on bikes and samba bands — walked through the Berlin's government district on Sunday, ahead of next week's first meeting of Germany's commission on exiting coal use...
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby M_B_S » Fri 14 Sep 2018, 06:36:43

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/13/euro ... index.html

Activists clash with police in Germany over occupation of ancient forest
By Judith Vonberg and Nadine Schmidt, CNN

Updated 1507 GMT (2307 HKT) September 13, 2018
RWE runs an open-pit coal mine near the Hambach Forest in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia.
The operation launched by police there Thursday morinng marks a pivotal moment in the country's battle between green energy and coal-powered plants, which produce almost 40% of Germany's electricity, according to Eurostat.
The 12,000-year-old Hambach Forest, which is owned by RWE, has shrunk to less than 10% of its original size since the company began razing sections of it four decades ago, according to estimates by RWE and environmental activists.
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Fri 14 Sep 2018, 08:04:57

Let us also remember that in the name of "Green Energy", Germany and other EU countries are buying shiploads of wood chips from Canada, causing the clearcutting of forests to replace the energy supplies lost from their nuclear power plants.

Burning wood chips in a power plant designed for hard coals actually produces MORE harmful GHG's than does coal. It's also a "double whammy" because they are burning forest biomass and making GHG's. However, it is compliant with the EU's "Green Energy" rules.
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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby M_B_S » Fri 05 Oct 2018, 04:55:11

Will the German "Judikative" save us from "our" failed polititians and corrupt energy=bankster system?

https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitge ... dungsstopp

https://www.greenpeace.org/internationa ... an-merkel/

Dear Chancellor Merkel,

The world is watching as the conflict around the Hambach forest, neighbouring villages and coal mine is escalating. The recent actions by the government of North Rhine-Westphalia on behalf of coal energy company RWE have only further fuelled the conflict. Now instead of thousands, tens of thousands of people are peacefully demonstrating each week against the irresponsible behaviour of RWE and the regional government.....

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Re: Germanys dirty secret under Chancelor Merkel

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 06 Oct 2018, 03:29:07

FIGHTING FOR THE FOREST
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Cruelty to animals [(<=> forest) M_B_S]
Kant derived a prohibition against cruelty to animals by arguing that such cruelty is a violation of a duty in relation to oneself. According to Kant, man has the imperfect duty to strengthen the feeling of compassion, since this feeling promotes morality in relation to other human beings. However, cruelty to animals deadens the feeling of compassion in man. Therefore, man is obliged not to treat animals brutally (Kant, Metaphysics of Morals, § 17).

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ENVEML1631
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Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
Protecting and restoring forests would reduce 18% of emissions by 2030 and help to avoid global temperature rise beyond 1.5C

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