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Pollution Pt. 2

Re: What is the top killer? Wars? Epidemics? Suicides? Drugs

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 21 Oct 2017, 17:22:34

A marked sign of our tremendous negative impact on this planet. This also undoubtedly is greatly affecting non human species as well. Not surprising that it was included in the limits to growth scenarios of back in the seventies. Those folks did a magnificently thorough study on the Limits to Growth
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Re: What is the top killer? Wars? Epidemics? Suicides? Drugs

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 21 Oct 2017, 19:08:29

dohboi wrote:"...clean water and waste water treatment"

In other words...pollution...thanks. :-D

I think of pollution as toxic chemicals. Human waste treated properly is a nutrient, like any natural compost. It's the pathogens in improperly treated waste that kill.
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Re: What is the top killer? Wars? Epidemics? Suicides? Drugs

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Oct 2017, 19:32:26

If you knew the process you could get high off sewage. The authorities use it to track drug use, as most of the drugs humans use end up in the toilet. Funny that.
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Re: What is the top killer? Wars? Epidemics? Suicides? Drugs

Unread postby evilgenius » Tue 24 Oct 2017, 10:38:00

SeaGypsy wrote:If you knew the process you could get high off sewage. The authorities use it to track drug use, as most of the drugs humans use end up in the toilet. Funny that.


Antibiotics being one of those. We should worry about their overuse. We should worry about whether the form they are in when they go down the toilet allows bacteria exposure that makes them resistant, and whether those exposed bacteria communicate well enough with other bacteria outside of that environment. I know you drive for a living like I do, SeaGypsy. I deliver drugs to nursing homes. Unlike how, when I used to work around x-ray film years ago, there was a collector for waste silver in the drain, there is no collector for what old people are putting out. Those things are super concentrated in those environments. You gotta wonder.
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Re: climate change "existential" threat to humanity

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 29 Oct 2017, 22:56:21

This is not exclusively on cc, but it does show there plenty of other threats to humanity (and much of the rest of planetary life) beyond cc:

Pollution’s Annual Price Tag?

$4.6 Trillion and 9 Million Dead


by John Tozzi, Bloomberg News

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... llion-dead
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Re: Pollution Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 20 Nov 2017, 16:45:58

Seems India is overtaking China as world's top polluting country
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-14639-8
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Re: Pollution Pt. 2

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 03 Dec 2017, 14:15:28

"A cricket Test match between India and Sri Lanka was repeatedly interrupted on Sunday with claims players were “continuously vomiting” due to hazardous pollution levels in the Indian capital."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... to-breathe
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Re: Pollution Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Thu 07 Dec 2017, 23:18:10

Light pollution
Outdoor lighting is regarded as a necessity, especially in highly populated areas, but artificial night-lights are an environmental pollutant, disrupting processes such as light-dark cycles in nocturnal animals—those that are active at night—and affecting plants and microorganisms. Prolonged exposure to artificial night-lights has also been suspected in affecting our health and sleep patterns
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https://www.gotscience.org/2017/12/arti ... -brighter/
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How the oil industry set out to undercut clean air

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 14 Dec 2017, 22:27:24

On sunny days, when his classmates run out to play, Gabriel Rosales heads to the school nurse for a dose of Albuterol. The fine mist opens his airways, relaxing the muscles in his chest. Without it, recess could leave the nine-year-old gasping for breath. He gets a second dose at the end of the day before heading home from St John Bosco Elementary School, in San Antonio, Texas. How big oil is tightening its grip on Donald Trump's White House Over the past year, Gabriel’s asthma has worsened. Visits to the emergency room, shortened trips to the park and reliance on inhalers have become his new norm. “It got to the point where I couldn’t even leave him with anybody,” said his father, Gabe, who works as a consultant to the National Association of Public Employees, a workers’ advocacy group, and a seasonal


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Re: Pollution Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 06 Mar 2018, 17:07:38

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-24/a ... he/9469922
India's air pollution crisis risks becoming humanitarian catastrophe
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Re: Pollution Pt. 2

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 06 Mar 2018, 18:19:48

Well, on the good side it helps reduce the human population overload.

What a mess.
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Re: Pollution Pt. 2

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 13 Apr 2018, 07:45:32

Environmental laws does not protect nature, they give us the right to consume it.

Kira Allmann from the University of Oxford, interviewing Mari Margil from CELDF.

https://soundcloud.com/oxhrh/rightsup-r ... -of-nature

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Re: Pollution Pt. 2

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 13 Apr 2018, 12:15:03

I was reading the autobiography of Teddy Roosevelt’s and was suprised that he was making the same claim about his own conservationist measures. He was pissed that the government was giving away resources for free when they should be charging. He attempted to regulate and make more fair the process and also to open more country to development. He made only minor note of his setting aside the great parks.

Then again, he never once mentioned his first wife or their daughter. So God only knows what was going through his mind.
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