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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby threadbear » Tue 22 May 2007, 16:09:39

If you want to be scared about rodent disease, the one to be wary of is hanta virus, not bubonic plague. Bubonic plague, if I remember correctly, is a treatable bacterial infection.

Hanta virus is easily aerosolized in dry climates or seasons, and it actually killed a woman who lives ten miles away from me in the Pacific Northwest a few years back. If and when you ever have to clear rodent droppings in an infested area, always wear a face mask. It causes a hemorrhagic fever, so you basically bleed to death internally.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/mnpa ... es/vhf.htm
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 22 May 2007, 21:41:29

KevO wrote:then they should see dentists more often

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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby Lore » Tue 22 May 2007, 21:53:29

I'm not kidding... quick, read this book!

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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby PeakingAroundtheCorner » Tue 22 May 2007, 22:00:56

highlander wrote:Come on guys (and gurls) cut the doomers some slack. How can folks have panic attacks when you keep throwing facts at them.
I was hoping to add to the hysteria by speculating the plague came up with the illegals, but you blew that for me.
Well, there is always leporsy


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Us doomers need it BAD!!!1!
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby Laughs_Last » Tue 22 May 2007, 22:23:01

O.M.G., Jimmy Carter was right about rabbits.

Sweet, sweet vindication. Now what do you Reaganites have to say about that?
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Tue 22 May 2007, 22:47:41

purcatty wrote:When peak oil hits and it is street war, it will be the races against the races, and the old guard will be taken out. Couch potatoes against gang bangers no contest.


I take a non-racist stance, but this indeed is what will happen. :cry:

Plague is old hat in Colorado, prairie dogs get it and undergo dieoffs, plague's considered, well, not that big a deal. It's there, hunters etc are educated on how to avoid it, and I think it can be vaccinated for.
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby katkinkate » Wed 23 May 2007, 07:09:30

I read a novel about a bubonic plague epidemic scenario, in New York. Sorry, can't remember the author's name, but it was called "Plague". It's a pretty good doomer story, although it did have a happy ending.
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 23 May 2007, 13:04:39

katkinkate wrote:I read a novel about a bubonic plague epidemic scenario, in New York. Sorry, can't remember the author's name, but it was called "Plague". It's a pretty good doomer story, although it did have a happy ending.


Are you talking about the story where the US Army deploys remote controlled Monocopters at the end?
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby strider3700 » Wed 23 May 2007, 15:21:58

plague is nothing at the moment but when TSHTF and garbage is no longer being trucked away from the cities, the rats will start to really expand. We haven't really managed to wipe out anything other then smallpox and all of the good old herd cullers stand a chance at making a come back.
shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby katkinkate » Thu 24 May 2007, 05:33:39

Tanada wrote:
katkinkate wrote:I read a novel about a bubonic plague epidemic scenario, in New York. Sorry, can't remember the author's name, but it was called "Plague". It's a pretty good doomer story, although it did have a happy ending.


Are you talking about the story where the US Army deploys remote controlled Monocopters at the end?


Yeah, they closed off the city and sent in drones spraying some sort of neurotoxin.
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby strider3700 » Thu 24 May 2007, 12:21:39

thats the happy ending? death by nerotoxin rather then plague? Or did it prevent the plague from spreading to the rest of the world saving millions and that was the happy ending?

This is why I love doomer porn. Take a horrible event that kills millions and turn it into a good thing.
shame on us, doomed from the start
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Re: Bubonic plague in Denver USA! animals dead

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 24 May 2007, 12:59:05

strider3700 wrote:thats the happy ending? death by nerotoxin rather then plague? Or did it prevent the plague from spreading to the rest of the world saving millions and that was the happy ending?

This is why I love doomer porn. Take a horrible event that kills millions and turn it into a good thing.


IIRC there was a muffed test where some residents got nerve poisen before they cordoned off the area, moved the residents into quarentine and then gassed the rats/mice/fleas with Sarin or one of the other big three nerve agents.
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Plague threatens ferrets, prairie dogs

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sun 31 Aug 2008, 00:29:47

Insecticide used on fleas carrying the disease at Badlands National Park
INTERIOR, S.D. - On the grasslands a few miles from the pinnacles and spires of Badlands National Park, federal wildlife officials have been waging a war since spring to save one of the nation's largest colonies of endangered black-footed ferrets.
The deadly disease sylvatic plague was discovered in May in a huge prairie dog town in the Conata Basin. The black-tailed prairie dog is the main prey of ferrets, and the disease quickly killed up to a third of the area's 290 ferrets along with prairie dogs.
The disease stopped spreading with the arrival of summer's hot, dry weather, but it poses a serious threat to efforts to establish stable populations of one of the nation's rarest mammals, said Scott Larson of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Pierre. …
About 5 to 15 people are infected by plague in the United States each year, but it can be cured with antibiotics if treatment is prompt.

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Re: Plague threatens ferrets, prairie dogs

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Sun 31 Aug 2008, 00:50:56

We have too many ferrets here anyway
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Re: Plague threatens ferrets, prairie dogs

Unread postby Eli » Sun 31 Aug 2008, 01:37:15

Won't somebody please think of the ferrets or the prairie dogs?
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Re: Plague threatens ferrets, prairie dogs

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 31 Aug 2008, 22:53:55

Eli wrote:Won't somebody please think of the ferrets or the prairie dogs?
Yeah, maybe then they can ignore that teeny weeny fish in the Sacramento Delta that is ruining California Agriculture. Millions of trees culled for that little smelt. The arrangement is that farmers get cheap water but when there is a problem, they get it first. So millions of Joe Sixpacks in the 'burbs still water their lawns and clean their cars while farmers go out of business. Smart.
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Plague or The Black Death

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 15 Aug 2017, 17:22:20

http://fortune.com/2017/08/15/plague-arizona-fleas/

2 Arizona Counties Are Seeing Signs of the Plague. It Isn’t the First Time

There's some troubling public health news out of Arizona this week. The Navajo and Coconino counties of the state have warned that fleas in the area tested positive for bubonic plague.

To be clear, no deaths or illnesses have been reported in the region so far. But the highly infectious and deadly pathogen—which claimed millions of lives in the Middle Ages and is caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis—is concerning enough that health officials have issued public warnings over the fleas, urging residents to stay away from animals that might contract the infection.

"Navajo County Health Department is urging the public to take precautions to reduce their risk of exposure to this serious disease, which can be present in fleas, rodents, rabbits and predators that feed upon these animals," the officials wrote. "The disease can be transmitted to humans and other animals by the bite of an infected flea or by direct contact with an infected animal."


Any poster from the region: it would be great to hear how this is being covered locally and what people's reactions are.
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