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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 10:03:59

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ions-study

Rare US floods to become the norm if emissions aren't cut

• Princeton-Rutgers study finds sharp increase in risk of frequent deluges
• ‘Many cities are behind the eight-ball in terms of preparing for flooding’
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 27 Jun 2017, 16:19:54

Met Office Warns Of A Month Of Rain In Just A Day

"For the region taking in London and the south east, there could be up to 60mm of rain between now and Wednesday morning – that’s equivalent to almost the entire average rainfall for June (which is 56mm) for the same region."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/u ... _hp_ref=uk
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 27 Jun 2017, 16:22:10

And for a global perspective:

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From Peter Sinclair's Climate Crocks
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 03 Jul 2017, 08:20:40

South China floods kill 15, thousands evacuated

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chin ... SKBN19O07X
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 06 Jul 2017, 14:01:47

Heavy rain in Japan forces almost 400,000 from their homes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asia ... SKBN19Q1IK
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 08 Jul 2017, 10:04:06

More on the Japan deluge here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... Japan.html)

Typical thunderstorms are 10 - 12 km [6 - 7 miles] high, but the one that dropped up to 150 mm an hour on Kyushu Thursday was seen via radar [to be] up to 18 km [11 miles]!
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 10 Jul 2017, 15:36:56

The Japanese deluge is just one of the extreme weather events recounted in this global survey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB2QyZtnO80
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 17 Jul 2017, 00:25:26

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/16/us/arizon ... index.html

seven dead

anyone in this area give us any perspective here?
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 17 Jul 2017, 13:48:12

And now Illinois, too. Again, is anyone in the area that can report on what's happening?

Are there really only a dozen or so people left on these threads???

http://wgntv.com/2017/07/17/illinois-ex ... -possible/
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby Tuike » Mon 17 Jul 2017, 15:00:16

18 dead, 18 missing in China flooding -guardian
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China has been hit by a series of fatal floods this summer, leaving dozens dead and displacing huge numbers of people. Last week authorities said that at least 63 were killed by landslides and floods in central China, which forced 1.6 million to flee.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 25 Jul 2017, 13:32:39

"Parts of Las Vegas got about 9 months worth of rainfall this morning (3"). Flash flooding ongoing in the driest big city in the country."
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status ... 3743812608

https://www.reviewjournal.com/weather/w ... ey-photos/
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 05 Aug 2017, 16:34:32

Global Warming Is Fueling Arizona’s Monstrous Monsoons

"The new study was published in the Journal of Applied Meteorology and Climatology. Using more detailed and localized precipitation information than is standard for weather data, Castro’s team compared monsoon rainfall throughout the Southwest from two periods — 1950 to 1970 and 1991 to 2010. The team found that Phoenix and many of the state’s low deserts saw rain falling in much more intense bursts. This happened even as the daily average rainfall across most of Arizona decreased by as much as 30 percent in some places."

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/warm ... oons-21679
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 14 Aug 2017, 11:16:41

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... c4f782585a

Hundreds buried alive in massive Sierra Leone mudslides and floods


The horrors just keep coming1
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 14 Aug 2017, 11:28:12

The consequence of industrial forest clearcutting, mostly for our precious tropical hardwood flooring material.
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Photo of the actual Sierra Leone mudslide. Notice the mature forest cover is gone replaced by scrub. A lost root system that would hold the hills together.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 14 Aug 2017, 11:44:40

Deforestation likely behind deadly Sabah mudslide
KINABATANGAN: Deforestation may be the primary cause of the devastating mudslide that occurred here last Saturday, said Universiti Malaysia Sabah geologist Professor Dr Felix Tungkol.

He said there were two major mudslides that resulted in the debris flow that has so far claimed five lives.

"The first one was clogged up, producing a temporary dam that later broke under pressure, causing a second, more potent landslide to occur.

"Such disasters are common here," he said, explaining that excessive clear-cutting of trees to make way for oil palm plantations could result in severely weakened soil in the area.

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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 14 Aug 2017, 16:40:24

Official death toll now up toe 250. These tragedies always have 'many mothers,' but somehow i have a feeling that heavy rains did have something to do with it... :roll:
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 14 Aug 2017, 17:18:25

dohboi wrote:Official death toll now up toe 250. These tragedies always have 'many mothers,' but somehow i have a feeling that heavy rains did have something to do with it... :roll:
Actually . . . no

The area around the Sinkyone Wilderness and the Unknown Coast is extremely rainy, especially in the winter. It's also on a crumbly shale. Yet the very steep heavily forested slopes rarely slide. Until the timber companies clear cut.
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Pacific Lumber To Pay Millions In Landslide Suit
Pacific Lumber Co. has agreed to pay $3.3 million to the victims of a catastrophic mudslide on the steep slope of a clear-cut mountain that wiped out nearly half of the Humboldt County hamlet of Stafford.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 14 Aug 2017, 18:33:38

Are you saying that they have just recently clear cut this area of Sierra Leone? Do you have some evidence to back that up? If not, that means that the rain was heavier than ones in the recent past, at least, otherwise this would have been happening pretty constantly.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 14 Aug 2017, 20:46:16

dohboi wrote:Are you saying that they have just recently clear cut this area of Sierra Leone? Do you have some evidence to back that up? If not, that means that the rain was heavier than ones in the recent past, at least, otherwise this would have been happening pretty constantly.

'Recently' can be a century for an old forest. The root mass is as large as the surface mass, the limbs and branches. When a tree is cut, especially in the tropics everything below ground become quick food for termintes, fungus and is soon gone. The soil then no longer held and can wash away.


dohboi, you can simply look at the pictures to understand what has happened. That hill behind the mud flow may have until quite recently held an old tropical forest. Now it is scrub.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 15 Aug 2017, 10:00:29

I guess p is trying to say I shouldn't post something about a flood in the deluge thread?? Or that rain had nothing to do with the flood?? 8O

He seems to have gone back to blathering, so I'll go back to ignoring him.

Meanwhile in the real, tragic world, the number of missing is in the thousands...

https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... -emergency
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