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Re: LENR, Rossi and the ECAT Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Subjectivist » Wed 09 Dec 2015, 11:46:44

If they come up with an affordable consumer item I will buy it and do my own judgement on its usefulness. I don't see any prices attached to these suggested items which usually means they are way over priced.
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Re: LENR, Rossi and the ECAT Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Subjectivist » Wed 09 Dec 2015, 11:51:57

Wait a minute, is this a zero point energy device or an ecat device?
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Re: Zero Point Energy (merged)

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 09 Dec 2015, 15:52:38

The Orbo device seems more like ZPE than ECAT so I moved the appropriate posts over here.
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Re: Zero Point Energy (merged)

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 11 Dec 2015, 13:07:30

Subjectivist wrote:Wait a minute, is this a zero point energy device or an ecat device?
Tanada wrote:The Orbo device seems more like ZPE than ECAT so I moved the appropriate posts over here.
Neither. They have a mechanical perpetual motion gizmo with magnets and also a self recharging battery with an electret for electrolyte.

Do all these deserve their own threads?
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Re: Zero Point Energy (merged)

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Fri 11 Dec 2015, 14:54:02

"They have a mechanical perpetual motion gizmo with magnets". Correct me if I'm wrong but any device utilizing a magnet can't be classified as "perpetual motion" because magnets aren't "perpetual" since they eventually lose their magnetism. IOW it's like calling a battery powered device a perpetual motion device because it functions perpetually...until the battery runs down. LOL.

I'll be glad to read an reports developed by an INDEPENDENT evaluation. Just let me know when one pops up.
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Re: Zero Point Energy (merged)

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 11 Dec 2015, 16:08:51

ROCKMAN wrote:"They have a mechanical perpetual motion gizmo with magnets". Correct me if I'm wrong but any device utilizing a magnet can't be classified as "perpetual motion" because magnets aren't "perpetual" since they eventually lose their magnetism. IOW it's like calling a battery powered device a perpetual motion device because it functions perpetually...until the battery runs down. LOL.

I'll be glad to read an reports developed by an INDEPENDENT evaluation. Just let me know when one pops up.

Or better yet, let me know when they are available at Home Depot for reasonable prices (in terms of years to achieve economic payback). It's not like anything (aside from reality) is stopping any of these hucksters from actually PRODUCING their products for a PROFIT, instead of simply spewing meaningless propoganda, time after time.
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Re: Zero Point Energy (merged)

Unread postby Zarquon » Wed 29 Mar 2017, 21:38:50

I've just read this ancient thread, more for fun than interest in quantum physics. Then I googled Mark Goldes, who posted here in 2005 about his ZPE breakthrough - and he's still in the business. He runs a non-profit in sunny California now:

http://www.aesopinstitute.org/

Apparently 0.energy didn't work out so well, just like Room Temperature Superconductors (or maybe the government suppressed them both), so he's invented a fuel-less car engine instead. It runs on ambient temperature:

"The background temperature of space is -455 degrees F. (close to Absolute Zero). When the temperature is 50 degrees F. anyplace on earth, there is more than 500 degrees F. of stored heat available to be utilized. Engines designed to run 24/7 on ambient heat will become as common as solar panels."

A much more reasonable approach to solving our energy dilemma, I think. Although some bridge capital is required.

(Jeeeesus, the guy must have been in this business for what, thirty years now? And he's still going! Where does he find them?)
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Re: Zero Point Energy (merged)

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 30 Mar 2017, 01:43:46

Like P.T. Barnum taught us, one is born every minute. And that was in the days when world population was less than a third where it is today, so probably 3 or 4 a minute these days :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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