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EPA Limits Methane from Oil and Gas Facilities

Re: Congress to Curtail Methane Monitoring

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 16:39:31

Dealing with methane emissions would be a great way for the POTUS to ramp up valuable infrastructure spending instead of make work projects. And it wouldn't require all fed $'s: the utility companies could just pass on much of the cost to consumers. Turns out the local NG distribution systems are the primary source. Read a story a couple of years ago: ran detectors down the streets (NYC/Boston?) and found detectable methane leaks every mile or two. Presumably a common problem in all cities. Those repairs should run into the hundreds of $billions nationally.
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Re: Congress to Curtail Methane Monitoring

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 20:22:59

ROCKMAN wrote:Turns out the local NG distribution systems are the primary source. Read a story a couple of years ago: ran detectors down the streets (NYC/Boston?) and found detectable methane leaks every mile or two. Presumably a common problem in all cities. Those repairs should run into the hundreds of $billions nationally.


Sounds like a another decaying urban infrasture problem to me.

If Boston and New York are leaking methane like crazy, then Boston and New York should get out there and find the leaks and then order repairs the leaks in their NG systems.

E-Z-P-Z. And since Boston and New York and other metro areas are so strongly opposed to greenhouse warming, there won't be any political opposition from their citizens to fixing the leaks Polls in these areas show that people are willing to pay more to save the planet---here's their chance.

Its win-win------the Feds can reduce their efforts while the cities step up and solve the methane leak problem, maybe with a few federal block grants of matching funds to help the process along.

I like it. :)

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Methane leaks are happening all over Boston. Time to walk the talk you Bostonian planet destroyers---fix your gas leaks!
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Re: Congress to Curtail Methane Monitoring

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 23:44:03

IIRC Washington DC was one of those cities.

I know in Philly you look down a street and you frequently see a bunch of 1-1/2" holes about 10' apart. That's where the gas company has been looking for underground leaks. They drill a hole in the macadem, measure the level, move down and see if it's better or worse.

Yes, repairing gas lines would be a valuable infrastructure project.

But this is congress speaking, maybe. Interesting to see what Trump thinks.

Still waiting to hear from him on the carbon tax idea.
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Re: EPA Limits Methane from Oil and Gas Facilities

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 25 Oct 2017, 05:07:30


Stanford University's Natural Gas Initiative and the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF) have joined forces in a search for innovations in mobile methane leak monitoring technology.

"The Mobile Monitoring Challenge will be an independent and peer-reviewed effort to test methane detection and quantification technologies that could provide rapid and low-cost assessment of significant emissions sources over a large number of facilities," they said.

Stanford and EDF are calling on engineers and technology developers to submit proposals by Oct. 31. Qualified applicants would have access to controlled field testing in Sacramento, CA, for remote technologies to monitor methane leaks from the oil and gas industry.

"We will invite select teams to take part in a single-partial blind study of controlled methane releases over a three-week period in early 2018. Stanford University scientists will design and administer a series of large-scale controlled methane releases at a single location, and study teams will do their best to find and quantify the methane released."

Technologies should be ground-based (truck-mounted) or aerial (planes, satellites, etc.), and able to quickly assess leaks while in motion and off-site.

Stanford researchers plan to analyze each team's findings and publish the results in open and peer-reviewed scientific journals.

In May 2016 the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency issued updates to the New Source Performance Standards designed to reduce methane, volatile organic compounds and toxic air pollutants, and began the process for regulating emissions from existing oil and gas sources. But stubbornly low natural gas prices are "reducing the economic incentive to employ expensive leak solutions," Stanford and EDF said.

ExxonMobil Corp., which said Monday it is enhancing a methane emissions reduction program from its production and midstream facilities across the United States, will be a technical adviser for the Stanford and EDF Mobile Monitoring Challenge.


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