
Now there is almost exclusively one and two year ice which has not had time to go through this process, so it's weak.
Good point about the accumulated freezing days and ocean currents, though. Those are indeed powerful factors.
jupiters_release wrote:It's laughable with how much ice volume the Arctic's lost in the past decade anyone still thinks we're not in runaway warming, or worse the "cyclical" bullshit.
vtsnowedin wrote:jupiters_release wrote:It's laughable with how much ice volume the Arctic's lost in the past decade anyone still thinks we're not in runaway warming, or worse the "cyclical" bullshit.
I don't believe I have stated that what is happening in the arctic was "just cyclical" in years if ever, but I have to ask do you think all weather cycles last less then a decade? Based on what?
jupiters_release wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:jupiters_release wrote:It's laughable with how much ice volume the Arctic's lost in the past decade anyone still thinks we're not in runaway warming, or worse the "cyclical" bullshit.
I don't believe I have stated that what is happening in the arctic was "just cyclical" in years if ever, but I have to ask do you think all weather cycles last less then a decade? Based on what?
Took a few seconds to get what you're asking.
The weather's to blame now.
I needed a good laugh TY.
Does rapid Arctic warming have tangible implications for weather in lower latitudes? The jury is still out. While there is a growing consensus in the model-based literature that that Arctic warming can, in isolation, significantly influence the midlatitude circulation, this neither implies that it has in the past, nor that it will in the future. This is because internal atmospheric variability may obscure the influence of Arctic warming and/or the Arctic influence may be small compared with other factors that control midlatitude weather. We suggest that it useful to frame inquiries using the ‘Can it?’, ‘Has it?’, and ‘Will it?’ approach. The ‘Can it?’ and ‘Will it?’ questions are potentially tractable as we continue to improve our mechanistic understanding of the high-to-mid- latitude connections, and as our models improve in their ability to simulate the related dynamics. However, the ‘Has it?’ is likely to continue to be more challenging to answer given the short observational record and large internal variability of the midlatitude atmosphere.
Tanada wrote:Color me dumb but I thought the Poles were normally high pressure areas in winter time because the air is colder and denser in winter?
Tanada wrote:Color me dumb but I thought the Poles were normally high pressure areas in winter time because the air is colder and denser in winter?
Cid_Yama wrote:More excessive heat in the Arctic.
http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.p ... 0163;image
For comparison here I last year, when there was all the bru-ha-ha.
http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/389271.html
kiwichick wrote:@ gg.....here is another version.....
https://14adebb0-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.goo ... edirects=0
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