SumYunGai wrote:What the hell are you talking about?
Apparently you've been incapable of following the thread's tangent. Not my fault your neurons fail to fire.
SumYunGai wrote:What the hell are you talking about?
harrisonlw wrote:Jesus. I really wanted this thread to be meaningful but some people just cannot help themselves.
harrisonlw wrote:The thread isn't dead, much as some want it to be.
Peak demand is starting to get more attention as the real issue. It is the proverbial nail in the coffin for the doomsday scenarios wrought by peak oil. Interestingly, the oil industry and doomers find common ground in their opposition to peak oil demand.
The ageing of the global population (shrinking labour force), economic growth shifting to services and away from industrialisation and the improvements in energy efficiency should see demand for energy peak sooner than expected.
And that assumes that current trends merely continue i.e. without much state intervention and no significant tech breakthrough. Tech developments will benefit from the gradual cessation of FF subsidies and increased investment in renewable energy.
And I don't believe that investment will remain coupled to oil price movements post-COP 21.
harrisonlw wrote:Jesus. I really wanted this thread to be meaningful but some people just cannot help themselves.
Pstarr, your views are respected by approximately three people on this forum. You disregard technical, scientific and academic evidence because it doesn't support your preconceived views. The call for humility is an interesting one too, considering that you asserted that I know 'squat' about these things in the same post. The hypocrisy is astounding.
But let's say I am wrong. As someone who presumably knows more about these things, could you please inform me where I went wrong in my assessment of changing demographics, economic substitution, energy efficiency and climate change negotiations? This is a forum after all. I am happy to be proven wrong.
harrisonlw wrote:Wasn't a statement, hence the question mark. My view is that the fast crash and the slow crash are unlikely to come to pass, and that we will transition relatively smoothly to renewables (with a slightly different economic system eventually, one that doesn't rely on perpetual growth in consumption).
Fair point though. I just wanted it to be the forum-equivalent of clickbait and to really engage everyone.
harrisonlw wrote:I should've been more specific. I meant pstarr's views on peak oil and its application to contemporary oil production, not its offshoots, whatever that means. Which is precisely why I've asked him to correct me on my views. Instead of being ultra-sensitive to opposing views and disregarding technical, scientific and academic evidence, pstarr could bring to bear his acumen and change my mind. My standing is irrelevant to me, though I will say that standing is decidedly subjective. I'm interested in facts and predictions made using evidence, something lacking in this forum.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by solid scholarly defence. If you'd like me to author a systematic review of the academic literature on renewable energy, you'll be disappointed. I read papers in peer-reviewed academic journals and articles written by academics and industry experts. I endeavour to contribute these things in the relevant threads.
So, onlooker, and I do mean this sincerely mate, what did I miss in regards to being in the throes of peak oil? Are you referring to the ETP model and its prediction of a lowering oil price? I don't know much about it but it looks to be discussed a fair bit and seems relevant to this thread so fire away.
Resource and energy use have to continue rising in these countries for the global economy to reach full industrialization. For that to happen, up to four more planets will be needed.
onlooker wrote:So KSA is collapsing and they are admitting that price may never go above $50 . Sounds like the curtain call for our way of life!
onlooker wrote:So KSA is collapsing and they are admitting that price may never go above $50 . Sounds like the curtain call for our way of life!
ennui2 wrote:onlooker wrote:So KSA is collapsing and they are admitting that price may never go above $50 . Sounds like the curtain call for our way of life!
Exsqueeze me?
I thought oil scarcity and prices going through the roof was supposed to be the curtain call for our way of life?
onlooker wrote:I never specified what part of the peak oil dynamic would be the catalyst for our downfall. So you cannot quote me on that.
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