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Phishing for Phools: Economics of Manipulation & Deception

Unread postby vox_mundi » Fri 30 Oct 2015, 15:54:28

Profit-maximizing businesses may find it in their interests to exploit, rather than to help, irrational consumers.

How companies prey on your weaknesses: a Robert Shiller Q&A

In his new book with George Akerlof, another Nobel-prize winning economist, Robert Shiller examines the many ways credit-card companies, financial firms and other businesses lure people into buying things that might harm them. The authors call that phishing, adopting the word for a common email scam to a broad array of cynical business practices. They call the person who takes the bait a phool. Their book is called "Phishing for Phools: The Economics of Manipulation and Deception."

Their big point: It's not that bad actors are gaming the free market, it's that hucksters and dishonest marketing are part of the free-market game.

In a recent interview with The Associated Press, Shiller talked about how phishers lure phools, the appeal of one-armed bandits and the media's misleading fascination with splashy stories. The interview has been edited for length and clarity.

Q: What prompted you to write this book?
A: I often tend to think that things are not what they seem.


Q: Your focus isn't on malevolent fraudsters but people just doing their job?
A: We agreed that we shouldn't portray these people as evil. This is just what you get with free markets, depending on how free you let them be. My previous books were all about the positive aspects to markets. But markets are often presented too positively, with a certain reverence. Life is more complicated than that.

Q: Could you explain why you chose the word, phish?
A: We use it as a metaphor because people are aware of computer phishing. You can so easily be fooled by them because you don't see all the work that went into luring you in. Things look perfectly plain and simple but in fact it's all artifice. There are a lot of these phishers, some of them are savvy operators, and they're experimenting. They find a ploy and, man, it works.

Q: This isn't a new trend but it's getting worse?
A: Yes. Take the slot machine. In the 19th Century, it dispensed sweets and toys. It was the first vending machine. Now, it's optimized for gambling. Companies experiment with different things. There's the jingling and bright lights, all part of a mesmerizing effect. They like to give you the sense that you've almost won, with three cherries, for instance. You can program it so that two cherries come up, and you can see the third cherry stopping just one off. You think, "I almost won!"
I don't actually play these machines, mind you.

Q: The gist is that businesses keep casting new lures into the water until they get a bite?
A: It's the same thing with Cinnabon. They don't publicize the experimentation they do. Manufacturers of food try to get the optimal ratio to tap into your impulsivity. They don't care about your health. Cinnabon boasts about their genuine Makara cinnamon from Indonesia. They can boast about that sort of thing. They can't say, "Boy, we really cranked up the fat and sugar."

They place them carefully indoors, in train stations and airports, where you'll smell it. You're frustrated, your flight was delayed, and you're in a bad mood. They catch you right there. The mind tends to have a conversation, producing an excuse to eat it alongside a memory of your resolve not to eat it. They try to help one side of this conversation with the slogan, "Life needs frosting." It's a beautiful slogan, a great justification for giving in. It works, I bet.

Q: You say the news media is guilty of phishing, too. How so?
A: They often focus on things that aren't important because they know what kind of story sells. In March of last year, this Malaysia Airlines plane went down mysteriously. The logical thing is to think somebody made a mistake. However, the news media latched onto a mystery story for days and days. It's just a waste of time to think about. In terms of human welfare, it would be much better if the cable stations put up the periodic table of the elements to remind everybody. That would be useful information compared to the Malaysian airlines story.

I was on Neil Cavuto's Fox Business TV show. He asked me what I thought about the Federal Reserve raising interest rates. I said I don't think it really matters whether the Fed raises rates this meeting or next meeting. He said, "Look we're doing a whole show about this." There's too much attention to these little stories.


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Akerlof and Shiller’s argument proceeds naturally from mainstream economic theory. If businesses proceed to maximize profits, then no opportunity to profitably manipulate or deceive will be left unturned.

Where should we expect manipulation and deception to predominate? Both demand and supply factors point towards victimization of the poorest and most vulnerable in society. In Scarcity (2013), Sendhil Mullainathan and Eldar Shafir demonstrate how poverty taxes cognitive bandwidth and can lead to less rational decisions. They show these effects both between- and within-individuals, so poverty affects us all the same – the poor are not fundamentally different than the more fortunate. Poverty provides a perfect “demand” for deception in that the increased mental strain from poverty means that the poor do not have the necessary cognitive resources available to avoid deceptive products or services. (... the reason why the 1% want the other 99% poor)

Normal people are being manipulated and deceived, and if relatively few empirical demonstrations of this fact have made their way into economic journals, this says more about the privileges enjoyed by the few (a group that most economists fit into) than the realities faced by the many.
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Re: Phishing for Phools: Economics of Manipulation & Decepti

Unread postby Apneaman » Fri 30 Oct 2015, 18:42:36

The Oligarch Recovery – U.S. Military Veterans are Selling Their Pensions in Order to Pay the Bills


"Moore soon found himself two months behind on rent and at least 10 days from payday. In bed that night, he saw a TV ad for Future Income Payments, a company based in Irvine, Calif., that buys pensions in exchange for a lump sum. The company said it had worked with military personnel and government workers. Ten minutes later, he got up and made the call.

The next day, a company representative called Moore back and explained that he would receive a $5,000 cash advance for selling part of his pension. In exchange, Moore would have to pay the company $510 a month for five years — a total of $30,600.

If it were a typical loan, that would amount to $25,600 in interest — a rate of 512 percent.

Most of the companies advertise nationally on news sites and in military magazines, consumer advocates say. One ad highlighted in the recent congressional hearing on pension advances featured two smiling people in uniform below the words “This is our America.”

The effective interest rates charged by pension advance companies can be abusive, Cartwright said. But it is particularly “egregious” that the companies go after military retirees, targeting income streams that are backed by the federal government, he added."

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Unread postby GoghGoner » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 08:15:03

70% of Americans are on prescribed drugs. The most used drugs are antidepressants which have dubious benefits for those with chronic mental illness. About 10% of school children are now on drugs so they can sit still in classrooms and the rates of ADHD diagnoses are still increasing. The pharma phishing has been incredibly successful lately.
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Re: Phishing for Phools: Economics of Manipulation & Decepti

Unread postby Cog » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 09:07:16

As long as the interest rates are disclosed, and they are by federal law, I see no problem with charging people 10,000% interest or even more. If you don't read what you are signing, then you are a fool. People must be allowed to succeed or fail based on their relative intelligence and efforts.

The government has a role in preventing fraud in a contract. This is why we have contract law and a judiciary to settle disagreements. They have no role in preventing people from doing stupid things.
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Unread postby kanon » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 09:11:07

Cog wrote:If you don't read what you are signing, then you are a fool.


What about people who believe what they read?
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Unread postby Cog » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 09:21:10

kanon wrote:
Cog wrote:If you don't read what you are signing, then you are a fool.


What about people who believe what they read?


If the contract is in error or misquotes the interest rate, then that is a violation of the contract and the contract becomes null and void. The lender may also suffer financial and criminal penalties. But if there is no misstatement of fact in the contract, then it should be upheld regardless of what the person signing it believed about it.

Like I said, its not the government's role to protect you from being stupid or not understanding how to read a contract.

Its like the payday loan or car title loan advertising. They say you can get your money NOW. That advertising is accurate and it appeals to people who don't think further than their next paycheck or desire to purchase something right NOW. The stupid or desperate who take out those loans are at some point going to be given a contract or have one available to them to sign. A reasonable or somewhat intelligent person would read the terms of the contract to understand exactly what they are giving up for short term cash.
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Unread postby Ibon » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 13:04:01

For those of you who are baseball fans.....here is a great exercise. Go to Youtube and look for the 1960 world series between the NY Yankees and Pittsburgh Pirates inning 7-9.. It is a classic to watch. Notice that there is not a single billboard, no advertisements anywhere on the field, no sponsors on the uniform. Just the ball game in its pure form. No free agents. The players were part of the team for years and when not in season many had jobs.

Contrast what you see with todays sports on TV, and just reflect on the number of sponsors and advertizing. Last night while watching the current world series game there was this commerical from a pharmaceutical company promoting some drug that extends life but does not cure advanced lung cancer. They had all these scenes of cancer patients enjoying their loved ones as if this drug would extend some quality of life. The level of manipulation on that commercial was truly horrifying when you consider what actually is being sold here.

We don't notice with the passing of time how far we have come with advertising and manipulation.

On a personal note it is possible to be vigilant and reject the manipulation. Just don't buy into the message and don't consume the product or the lies. It really is just that simple.

It is the empowerment of the "unconsumer".

Note: If you do watch the classic world series from 1960 check out the field, the dirt and grass, the uneven surfaces like they were playing in your old back lot. Compare that with today. Even this is a reflection of energy consumption or lack there of
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Unread postby vox_mundi » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 14:28:30

The great American medicine show, a spectacle of deceit, manipulation, and flimflammery

In the past three decades, America's healthcare system has radically metamorphosed from a public service network (largely run by independent physicians and nonprofit hospitals) into a corporate profit machine - the Medical-Industrial Complex. Drugmakers have been among the most ambitious, in-your-face pushers of this transmutation of medicine into just another commodity to be sold by hook or crook. In this system, the concept of "care" has been reduced to "caveat emptor," with the shareholders' interest in monetary gain overriding all other interests.

"... Ask your doctor if playing into the hands of the pharmaceutical industry is right for you"

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Marketing to Doctors

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The pharmaceutical industry spends a fourth of its income on ads and other promotions, nearly double its expenditures on research and development

A fast-moving, systemic epidemic called DTC has swept across America, endangering public health, jacking up our costs, and weakening the curative connection between health professionals and patients. DTC stands for "Direct-to-Consumer" drug advertising. It's a plague of marketing, empowering profiteering corporations to short-circuit the judgment of doctors by using all of the tricks of Madison Avenue (including lies) to convince viewers and readers that (first) they're suffering from a particular malady, (second) the advertiser's brand-name medicine is the very best cure, and (finally) they must go to their doctors pronto to insist on getting a prescription for that specific drug. The essence of this marketing scheme is to turn consumers into sales representatives for drug peddlers. Brilliant.

Prescribing medicine through the television, radio, print, and internet ads of corporations (whose sole motive is to sell more pills) is so crass, so awash in conflicts of interest, and so inherently dangerous that only two countries have ever legalized it: New Zealand in 1981 and the USA in 1997.

In 1997, spending on DTC ads was only $220 million; by 2002, it was $2.8 billion; and it has kept a steady pace of roughly $3 billion a year ever since. Corporations don't spend that kind of money to dramatize the severity of their products' nasty side effects. As two ad execs giddily put it in a 1998 report to the industry, "The ultimate goal of DTC advertising is to stimulate consumers to ask their doctors about the advertised drug and then, hopefully, get the prescription." Obviously, to "get the prescription," corporate ads don't stress such unpleasant outcomes as these (taken from the small print of full-page ads for just a half dozen heavily advertised drugs): very high fevers, confusion, uncontrollable bowel movements, trouble swallowing, lower sperm count, prostate cancer, loss of vision, suicidal thoughts... and, of course, death.

... the promotions work, as an industry spokesman happily affirmed: "There's a strong correlation between the amount of money pharmaceutical companies spend on DTC advertising and what drug patients are most often requesting from physicians." He also noted that the trumpeting of brand-name pills "is definitely driving patients to the doctor's office."

In 2008, the House Commerce Committee found that every $1,000 spent on drug ads produces 24 new patients, and a 2003 research report found that prescription rates for drugs promoted with DTC ads were nearly seven times greater than those without such promos.

And in educational research ... "Corporate funding creates a culture of secrecy that can be as chilling to free academic inquiry as funding from the military. Instead of government censorship, we hear the language of commerce: nondisclosure agreements, patent rights, intellectual property rights, intellectual capital." - Rampton and Stauber (p214)

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Re: Phishing for Phools: Economics of Manipulation & Decepti

Unread postby vox_mundi » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 18:12:46

Valeant: Could this be the Pharmaceutical Enron? - Pharmacist at center of Valeant scandal accuses drugmaker of 'massive fraud'

Just four days ago in the world of Valeant, no one had ever heard of Philidor RX. Recent concerns about the company focused on its unsavory business practices of massive prices increases on pharmaceuticals acquired in a rapid succession of acquisitions, while slashing research and development. But no one had discussed how these drugs were distributed….until this week.

On Monday morning before earnings, a report came out of SIRF, uncovering undisclosed relationships with specialty pharmas , namely Philidor RX. Most importantly, the article introduced Wall Street to a court filing made by a company called R&O Pharmacy, filed with the California District Court in September, in which this small regional pharmacy claims it had received an improper demand for payment from Valeant to the tune of $69 million.

Just yesterday, the New York Times increased its scrutiny on Philidor by questioning if its operation was the target of subpoenas recently served on Valeant over its pricing strategy, covered the prior week .

What is being covered up??

In the same slide presentation we read Valeant's explanation of a mysterious court document. R&O Pharmacy filed for pre-emptive relief in California District Court for having received a demand for $69 million from Valeant , stating it had no invoices from Valeant. Valeant's explanation was this one slide: ...

Citron believes the whole thing is a fraud to create invoices to deceive the auditors and book revenue. PHANTOM ACCOUNTS.

http://www.citronresearch.com/wp-conten ... inal-a.pdf

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Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 31 Oct 2015, 22:59:01

Cog wrote:As long as the interest rates are disclosed, and they are by federal law, I see no problem with charging people 10,000% interest or even more. If you don't read what you are signing, then you are a fool. People must be allowed to succeed or fail based on their relative intelligence and efforts.

The government has a role in preventing fraud in a contract. This is why we have contract law and a judiciary to settle disagreements. They have no role in preventing people from doing stupid things.

Right, Cog. And that's where I have the biggest problem with the "more government, no matter what the cost" crowd. With the 9 kazillion pages of rules and regulations the government has on all sorts of businesses, why is it that this kind of thing is so pervasive? "Truth in advertising" is a VERY sad joke, for instance.

Whining about it isn't going to help. More government will, as usual, get us far less than the additional cost.

Maybe the far left position of giving "the poor" more and more should be shifted to educating everyone better and better, so people are educated enough to READ and pay attention, and make reasonable choices.

Oh, and the right wing value of personal responsibility would be nice. But we can't have THAT of course, since that flies in the face of the idea of ever more nanny state to "take care" of us.
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Unread postby onlooker » Sat 09 Jan 2016, 12:01:58

Good topic started here. This points to the more overriding theme of profit having become such a overriding prerogative to the capitalist system and its components such as banks and corporations that all other considerations including human welfare and the welfare of the planet are sacrifices in the altar of profit/greed. So it is not surprising that financial interests would utilize deception to increase profit. The US being the country that most epitomizes this rapacious insatiable appetite for profit and wealth.
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Unread postby dohboi » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 13:03:11

There is also a rise in the number of fraudsters pretending to be the IRS. A number of people I know got calls from someone pretending to be IRS and saying that the people they were calling were about to be indited. Talk about a way to scare people into reacting! Luckily, none of my friends and relatives were so easily duped, but I'm sure that many are--at least into giving vital information, if not sending large checks to what they think is the IRS.
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Unread postby onlooker » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 13:44:04

dohboi wrote:There is also a rise in the number of fraudsters pretending to be the IRS. A number of people I know got calls from someone pretending to be IRS and saying that the people they were calling were about to be indited. Talk about a way to scare people into reacting! Luckily, none of my friends and relatives were so easily duped, but I'm sure that many are--at least into giving vital information, if not sending large checks to what they think is the IRS.

Yes I think newcomers and immigrants are the most vulnerable.
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Unread postby Newfie » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 13:51:07

Cog wrote:As long as the interest rates are disclosed, and they are by federal law, I see no problem with charging people 10,000% interest or even more. If you don't read what you are signing, then you are a fool. People must be allowed to succeed or fail based on their relative intelligence and efforts.

The government has a role in preventing fraud in a contract. This is why we have contract law and a judiciary to settle disagreements. They have no role in preventing people from doing stupid things.


Ever try dealing with a dying parent? Older, worn down, emotional distraught? Possible dementia?

Not everyone has an advocate to look out for them, the government is supposed to provide some basis of trust and protection.
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Unread postby onlooker » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 16:52:48

And what about companies Newf, some would say they have no obligations per say other than to make a profit. Their ability to get away with financial and almost criminal shenanigans is impressive because we generally have a government who looks the other way. One would think they have at least the responsibility to be truthful about their products and services. Well one would think wrong. Of course Exxon is a different story because we the consumers of Oil are to blame for the effects bought on by the age of Oil. :P 8)
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Unread postby Cog » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 17:05:38

From the article upstream in this thread:

"Moore soon found himself two months behind on rent and at least 10 days from payday. In bed that night, he saw a TV ad for Future Income Payments, a company based in Irvine, Calif., that buys pensions in exchange for a lump sum. The company said it had worked with military personnel and government workers. Ten minutes later, he got up and made the call.

The next day, a company representative called Moore back and explained that he would receive a $5,000 cash advance for selling part of his pension. In exchange, Moore would have to pay the company $510 a month for five years — a total of $30,600.

If it were a typical loan, that would amount to $25,600 in interest — a rate of 512 percent.


If you are stupid enough to sign up for a loan like this, you deserve every bit of pain coming your way. Please sterilize yourself so you can't pass on the stupid.
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Re: Phishing for Phools: Economics of Manipulation & Decepti

Unread postby Cog » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 17:09:39

Newfie wrote:
Cog wrote:As long as the interest rates are disclosed, and they are by federal law, I see no problem with charging people 10,000% interest or even more. If you don't read what you are signing, then you are a fool. People must be allowed to succeed or fail based on their relative intelligence and efforts.

The government has a role in preventing fraud in a contract. This is why we have contract law and a judiciary to settle disagreements. They have no role in preventing people from doing stupid things.


Ever try dealing with a dying parent? Older, worn down, emotional distraught? Possible dementia?

Not everyone has an advocate to look out for them, the government is supposed to provide some basis of trust and protection.


Is the government now your mommy and do you need a tuck in? LOL

Bottom line. If the company discloses the terms, you sign it, then you bought it. Its is not the role of the government to protect the elderly. It is your job as one of their kids to do that. Plus, a contract signed with someone with court adjudicated dementia is null and void.

The role of government, in particular the judiciary, is to enforce and interpret contracts, not to hold your hand and play wet nurse to you. I swear to God. The pussification of Americans is increasing at an alarming rate.
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