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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby Subjectivist » Tue 27 Jan 2015, 13:33:17

dinopello wrote:
Simon_R wrote:
The cloud? We really ought to clarify what that means


Putting your data on a server managed by someone you dont know, in a place you dont know.

What could possibly go wrong


Just curious how old you are ? Because I feel the same way (I'm 48) but most of the younger people I know seem to have a different attitude or at least don't think about "where" their data is.


I am 47 and suffer the same lack of trust Dino, you are not alone. When my young nieces and nephews go about their lives they have near total trust in the Information Superhighway/Facebook/cell phone company.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby sjn » Tue 27 Jan 2015, 14:08:20

Just to follow up what I wrote; I'm not saying systems should be more difficult or complex to deploy or use (than they need be), but understanding the underlying operation allows more informed decision making, especially regarding details such as access and security.

Regarding the trust placed in Facebook, WhatsApp, et al, despite the Snowden revelations of unrestrained government agency access: I suspect it's a measure of the ignorance of most people, combined with herd behaviour, and group pressure.

There also seems to be a lot of trust in authority particularly amoungst younger people, and there doesn't seem to be much of a separation between trusting their government and large corporations.

I'm quite as old as some of you guys, yet, at 37, and this is just my impressions from those I've encountered, it does strike me though as something that has changed over the years.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby Fishman » Tue 27 Jan 2015, 21:14:37

But, but, but, the president just said things were improving in his sotu speech. Stocks crumbled today on more economic bad news. Whatever he touches, whatever he announces, you know it will quickly turn to crap.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby Lore » Tue 27 Jan 2015, 21:32:28

Fishman wrote:But, but, but, the president just said things were improving in his sotu speech. Stocks crumbled today on more economic bad news. Whatever he touches, whatever he announces, you know it will quickly turn to crap.


You're a little late with your pronouncements. Obama's approval rating is passing 50%, Ronald Reagan territory. Unemployment down, deficit down, stock market up, auto industry going strong, the rich are getting richer at a pace unlike any other In time. Oh, and did I mention gas prices have fallen in my neck of the woods and elsewhere in the US to below $2/gal.

On a personal note I'm enjoying Obamacare at a substantial savings for better coverage than my previous plan, of which I would have been kicked off of.

More like sour grapes on your part then crap.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby Simon_R » Wed 28 Jan 2015, 08:48:06

49 year old IT Geek ........ ;)
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby Ulenspiegel » Wed 28 Jan 2015, 10:40:27

dinopello wrote:
Simon_R wrote:
The cloud? We really ought to clarify what that means


Putting your data on a server managed by someone you dont know, in a place you dont know.

What could possibly go wrong


Just curious how old you are ? Because I feel the same way (I'm 48) but most of the younger people I know seem to have a different attitude or at least don't think about "where" their data is.


It is not a problem of age, but of economic value of the data. When your business depends on them or even worse when your business depends on the fact that your competitor does not have these data, then you have a certain attitude regarding cloud. For a teenager the worst case is that his/her home made porn gets distributed.

A friend of mine works for SAP and 6 years ago they contacted many of their German customers (usually SMEs) in order to evaluate the interest in cloud storage. The answer was a clear "no".
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Wed 28 Jan 2015, 23:36:04

dolanbaker wrote:Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 26% of staff, that's nearly 110,000 people.


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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Wed 28 Jan 2015, 23:38:44

Sun, Cisco, IBM. Hardware is a commodity and commodity means "made in China."

Ten years ago, everyone wanted to sell the enterprise software licenses. For individuals, they are now they are moving towards a low monthly payment and continuous updates so everyone has the same version. No more Windows XP for you!

Big data analytics have been a big thing with IBM for nearly 20 years. WebSphere (?) and how many other incarnations? But their experience also points the limited impact of that technology. Everyone is jumping onto that bandwagon, and the disappointment will be great.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby efarmer » Sat 31 Jan 2015, 14:47:35

I lived through the era, I remember in the 1970-1980s how every office had an IBM Selectric typewriter, and perhaps a 3270 terminal or two lashed to a mainframe somewhere, or even an IBM PC emulating a terminal and running some aps standalone. IBM had the moxie, and the brains, they created a strategy for documents to be portable between processing domains called SGML (standard generalized markup language) in the 1960's that inspired Adobe decades later to morph the idea into HTML, which proved useful for web pages. They hatched many creative eggs in their prime, but did not run with the new chickens that hatched out from them. The mainframe gave way to the server farm, and the terminal is a smart phone, and the Apples, and Googles, and Amazons, and Facebook, and the like have the money, the creative horsepower, and the cred to dominate like IBM once did. The moral is when you have lit up people laying creative eggs, you might consider hatching them and not being who you used to be until you are not relevant in the next paradigm.
I type this on an IBM keyboard, made in 1984 in the US, and with the feel of a Selectric keyboard, lashed to my Windows 7 machine. I hope it doesn't croak on me, because they simply don't make a keyboard that feels this good and runs for 30 years without a hitch anymore, and if you can type like a demon, can hang with you and pitch a bitch.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby dolanbaker » Sat 31 Jan 2015, 19:07:36

efarmer wrote:I type this on an IBM keyboard, made in 1984 in the US, and with the feel of a Selectric keyboard, lashed to my Windows 7 machine. I hope it doesn't croak on me, because they simply don't make a keyboard that feels this good and runs for 30 years without a hitch anymore, and if you can type like a demon, can hang with you and pitch a bitch.

How do you connect it? Do you have a adaptor, as I believe that those old keyboards had DIN plugs.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby efarmer » Sun 01 Feb 2015, 20:26:20

It is a Lexmark Copyright 1984 but made in 1995 in the USA. My bad, it has the modern connector and not the IBM XT era mini DIN. So it is only 20 years old
and still working like a champ.
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Re: Rumour has it that IBM are to layoff 23% of staff

Unread postby joyfulbozo » Thu 12 Feb 2015, 09:14:52

With more cuts intimidating, the governor of New York discussed the issue and in this week announced an agreement with IBM. According to this agreement the tech giant has promised to maintain at least 3,100 employees in New York through the end of 2016. This also includes bringing 500 new jobs to Buffalo.
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