[Cid_Yama]

During an interview on SuperBowl Sunday, President Obama said, "...Yanukovych then fleeing after we brokered a transition of power in Ukraine."

http://youtu.be/_p7n-4pE3A0

[dissident]

And now the US is "brokering" the repression of the Donbas. Shelling civilians 24/7 is an example of "democracy" export.

Obama has admitted that the US overturned a democratic government and helped install an ethno-fascist junta. But that is not a surprise. The USA overthrew a democratic government in Iran during the 1950s and installed the dictator Shah. Then it got the 1979 Islamic revolution blowback. We are seeing some of the blowback in Ukraine already.

[PrestonSturges]

What would be the reason for doing this? After the original rebellion, Yulia was leading the country. She's actually a physicist I believe. But the regime that took over had a lot of the original Communists, and they threw her in prison to rot. Nobody thought that they were a bunch of good guys, and my impression was that were doing the post-Soviet kleptocracy thing.

[Cid_Yama]

Now that we've accidentally admitted we orchestrated the coup in Ukraine, it demonstrates that WE started this conflict in Ukraine. That WE were the ones wanting to extend our hegemony into Ukraine. WE deposed a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED goverment in Ukraine. WE not the Russians.

When the Russians rightfully stood against what we were doing, we made THEM out to be the bad guys. And due to our overwhelming control of Western media, a large segment of our population believe the pseudo-cold war nonsense.

Next we will find ourselves in a proxy war with Russia over OUR lies, that could easily lead to WWIII.

[dissident]

Thanks to the US media most Americans thought that Iraq was behind 9/11.

America is living in a propaganda bubble. The history of such delusions is quite tragic.

[Cid_Yama]

Unfortunately, it cannot be corrected in the time we have left. These were socially engineered from birth. It would take shutting down the social engineering first, then waiting for that generation to die off. They cannot be restored to true humanity again.

[Quinny]

You're not Cid - 6 and the like are!

[Cid_Yama]

That's because I was born in 1943. Once everyone had a TV in their home, the children were indoctrinated from the time they could watch it.

A good example is the portrayal of what a family was 'supposed to be like' in the later half of 1950's. It totally socially engineered what America was like afterwards.

[Cid_Yama]

Opps, wrong thread.