onlooker wrote: We have had people living their lives in useful ways for thousands of years without this gearing itself to mass consumerism.
Newfie wrote:Good Ibon, a aspect I had not considered.
How's Wilson doing?
Got another for ya, Gonzalez, Everday Survival.
Pretty pathetic isn't it ?pstarr wrote: The shopping mall is a lovely Cloud Forest. Givemeabreak.
While I actually see a lot of truth in what you say Ibon, I see another (inherited) behavioral program at work here. We are pack/tribe animals, somewhere between great apes and wolves. We need status, hierarchy, and small packs. We are always looking around for an alpha (male/female) but are always confused by advertising/media/corporate pictures.
But make no mistake: it the ghettoization in industrial/consumer-work/consumption prisons that keeps us from forming real packs and communities . . . of a psychologically reasonable size. Several hundred whatever.
pstarr wrote:All that stuff Keith, about purported leisure never came about because it would have empowered people to want more leisure. More pleasure, travel, maturity. More experimentation. More drugs, sex, and rock and roll. It was better to enslave people, most with jobs and mortgages, others with promises of wealth and the rest with deprivation and poverty. Sharing, equality, leisure are not for the masses.
Is that worse than the cultures that work their butts off while all falls apart around them?Newfie wrote:A clarification.....the work/leisure argument I'm making seems to be limited to some cultures. There are others where there seems to be no impediment to leisure, while all falls apart around them.
Keith_McClary wrote:Is that worse than the cultures that work their butts off while all falls apart around them?Newfie wrote:A clarification.....the work/leisure argument I'm making seems to be limited to some cultures. There are others where there seems to be no impediment to leisure, while all falls apart around them.
onlooker wrote:I am observing my species like an extra terrestrial at the moment and my conclusion so far is that humans are uniquely freaky in the universe
And getting freakier by the day
Quinny wrote:It is so obvious to me that sharing the benefits of automation so people had less 'work' to do is a no brainer when it comes to humanity and the planet. The problem for TPTB is what do people do when they have lots of time on there hands. OK at first they might have a vacation or just mess around, but then what do they do? They start to think and that's dangerous! That's a major reason why re-distribution of wealth/time/labour hasn't happened.
Oh and there's that damn system again, it has to 'grow'.
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