SeaGypsy wrote:Isn't it weird AD, the parallel universe where Australia is anti American. Wow.
Sixstring is in the backyard so it doesnt count. Just so as we are aware and don't get taken for a ride, we are doing ok.
SeaGypsy wrote:Isn't it weird AD, the parallel universe where Australia is anti American. Wow.
ROCKMAN wrote:Being a geologist I like to stick with simple explanations. The US and EU involvement in the relationship between Russia and the Ukraine? So far Russia and its supporters have conducted their efforts on the ground with no physical interference from the US or EU countries. Russia has taken some financial hits due to the sanctions by the US/EU. But it has also gained hundreds of $billions in fossil fuel assets. It is also receiving $billions on past due NG bills from the Ukraine, guaranteed payments of future Ukrainian NG purchases and the continued sale of hundreds of $billions in future oil/NG sales to the EU. And IMHO much of this as a result of US involvement in the situation including its influence on the govts of the EU countries.
Bottom line I don't see Putin having bad net feelings about US involvement in the Ukraine situation. So far he's way ahead on the scoreboard IMHO.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:ROCKMAN wrote:Being a geologist I like to stick with simple explanations. The US and EU involvement in the relationship between Russia and the Ukraine? So far Russia and its supporters have conducted their efforts on the ground with no physical interference from the US or EU countries. Russia has taken some financial hits due to the sanctions by the US/EU. But it has also gained hundreds of $billions in fossil fuel assets. It is also receiving $billions on past due NG bills from the Ukraine, guaranteed payments of future Ukrainian NG purchases and the continued sale of hundreds of $billions in future oil/NG sales to the EU. And IMHO much of this as a result of US involvement in the situation including its influence on the govts of the EU countries.
Bottom line I don't see Putin having bad net feelings about US involvement in the Ukraine situation. So far he's way ahead on the scoreboard IMHO.
Yup, Putin has the USA dancing to his tune. The baton of world leadership has been tossed up into the air, the question is who will grab it as it comes into reach? My money is on China, but Russia could still manage to snatch it first.
JuanP wrote:Grow a pair and face the truth, you are a COWARD! You are not worth the air you breathe!
SeaGypsy wrote:Isn't it weird AD, the parallel universe where Australia is anti American. Wow.
US Alarmed Over Reports of Russian Buildup in E. Ukraine
The White House voiced "grave concern" Sunday over reports of military reinforcements pouring into eastern Ukraine from neighboring Russia, including the cross-border transfer of heavy weapons and tanks.
National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan also warned that any move by pro-Russian rebels to seize more territory in Ukraine's embattled east would be seen as a "blatant violation" of a cease-fire deal with the Kyiv government.
The latest U.S. warning comes as European monitors reported convoys of heavy weapons and armor moving into the east.
http://www.voanews.com/content/shelling-rocks-ukraine-donetsk/2513618.html
Close military encounters between Russia and the west ‘at cold war levels’
Close military encounters between Russia and the west have jumped to cold war levels, with 40 dangerous or sensitive incidents recorded in the past eight months alone, according to a new report published on Monday.
The report, Dangerous Brinkmanship by the European Leadership Network, logs a series of “highly-disturbing” incidents since the Ukrainian crisis began earlier this year, including an alarming near-collision between a Russian reconnaissance plane and a passenger plane taking off from Denmark in March with 132 passengers on board.
What made the incident especially dangerous was that the Russian plane did not have on its transponders, the usual method of signalling its presence to other aircraft.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/10/close-military-encounters-russia-west-cold-war
SeaGypsy wrote:At the end of the day, Australia is usually the first ally of the USA to stick forces into joint operations. Abbott announced logistic support to the Kurds in Iraq before Obama announced any action over the Yazidis in Iraq. We have relatively robust political discussion which when it involves cannon fodder, is always polarising. However, we have a very staunch record as an ally to the US & to Britain. To suggest otherwise is inane, a product of one sided reading of commentary, not facts of action.
Inside Japan's Controversial Military Expansion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcQTysyGwKQ
GregT wrote:Not everyone in the world sees War as the answer 6, and not everyone sees segregation as the answer either.
Kylon wrote:I see it simply like this:
The United States is going to involve itself in Ukraine whether or not Russia wants it. So inviting the United States into the Ukraine has no political cost for the Russian government, because the U.S will go where it wants regardless of what Russia says, unless repelled by military force.
Sixstrings wrote:Did Australia's PM say he is going to "shirt front" Putin (rugby term), or did he not say that?
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