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charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 12:44:01

I came upon this by accident it is on Youtube and is from the movie "The Great Dictator" and it is spoken from none other
than Charlie Chaplain. I find this speech impacting and moving. But above all the contents speaks on the nature of why
we have arrived at this stage in our evolution. That our nature of being seduced by greed and power has finally culminated
in creating the enormous problems we face today. Those who have led us and are leading us are particularly addicted and bewitched
by greed and power. So I would be glad to hear any and all opinions about this speech.
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Re: charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby Quinny » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 14:26:49

One of my friends posted it on FB a few weeks ago. It's good!
Live, Love, Learn, Leave Legacy.....oh and have a Laugh while you're doing it!
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Re: charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby RobertInget » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 16:07:16

Chaplin in his day was labeled a "Premature Anti Fascist" and
"Dangerously Progressive" by the establishment of postwar USA.

The Great Dictator spent a year in production, and was released in October 1940.[218] There was a vast amount of publicity around the film, with a critic for the New York Times calling it "the most eagerly awaited picture of the year", and it was one of the biggest money-makers of the era.[219] The ending was unpopular, however, and generated controversy.[220] Chaplin concluded the film with a six-minute speech in which he looked into the camera and professed his personal beliefs.[221] Charles J. Maland has identified this overt preaching as triggering a decline in Chaplin's popularity, and writes, "Henceforth, no movie fan would ever be able to separate the dimension of politics from [his] star image".[222] The Great Dictator received five Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay and Best Actor.[223]
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Re: charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 18:48:35

thanks for putting context to this video Robert. Happy New Year to everyone!
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Re: charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 21:38:10

This was controversial because Hitler had been pretty popular in US and England throughout the 1930s because Hitler was seen as having pulled Germany out of its economic depression. He was greatly admired for crushing the trade unions. The Republicans and Conservatives were the "appeasers." That's why the GOP loves to accuse others of being "appeasers" today. "Appeaser" Loyd George was the leader of the Conservative party. It was the working classes and the union members who knew that Hitler would kill them or literally reduce them to slaves. The industrialists were huge fans of Hitler. Henry Ford and Hitler were personal friends and Ford published insanely antisemitic propaganda in the US. Admiration of Hitler and wild antisemitism were common in the US right up until pearl Harbor day. FDR saw that America was eventually going to end up at war with Germany, but he was hated by the GOP pretty much just like Obama is now.

Maybe our resident Holocaust denier (you know you who you are) would like to bicker about this.
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Re: charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby americandream » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 23:33:57

PrestonSturges wrote:This was controversial because Hitler had been pretty popular in US and England throughout the 1930s because Hitler was seen as having pulled Germany out of its economic depression. He was greatly admired for crushing the trade unions. The Republicans and Conservatives were the "appeasers." That's why the GOP loves to accuse others of being "appeasers" today. "Appeaser" Loyd George was the leader of the Conservative party. It was the working classes and the union members who knew that Hitler would kill them or literally reduce them to slaves. The industrialists were huge fans of Hitler. Henry Ford and Hitler were personal friends and Ford published insanely antisemitic propaganda in the US. Admiration of Hitler and wild antisemitism were common in the US right up until pearl Harbor day. FDR saw that America was eventually going to end up at war with Germany, but he was hated by the GOP pretty much just like Obama is now.

Maybe our resident Holocaust denier (you know you who you are) would like to bicker about this.


Part of the anti-semitism problem stemmed form the active role played by Jews in the progressive movements across the world. The Jews had an especially tragic history in feudal and then capitalist Europe and also produced some of the finest scholars who were able to apply themselves to the issues. In fact Lincoln routinely communicated with Marx over the issue of the contours of the new republic and the place of the citizenry in that republic, including the tragedy of its enslaved citizenry:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/i ... letter.htm

With the rise of global labour organisation at the start of the 20th century, Hitler was a godsend to the ruling elite who were repulsed not only by the challenges to their rule, but the widespread experimentation in communal living that was ongoing across Europe. Many of the more informed leaders of the popular struggles saw the communitarian alternative as a real option in the face of rising capitalism. Opportunists such as Hitler (and later Mao) of course saw some aspects of socialism as a means for galvanising a parochial capitalist backlash and of course the rest is history as we saw with the rise of a sumilar vein in the McCarthyism of the US, the incorporation of China in global manufacturing and a shift to the current elitism we find ourselves confronting today.

With all its problems of excess and despoilation of our planetary home.
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Re: charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 23:46:38

Like modern Klansman, Hitler claimed he was fighting racism. Like may conservatives, he said the only real racism is the antiwhite racism of multicultural liberals and the "liberal media' which he said was controlled by the Jews. Interestingly he also complained about globalization.
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Re: charlie chaplin "Greatest speech"

Unread postby americandream » Tue 31 Dec 2013, 23:49:57

PrestonSturges wrote:Like modern Klansman, Hitler claimed he was fighting racism. Like may conservatives, he said the only real racism is the antiwhite racism of multicultural liberals and the "liberal media' which he said was controlled by the Jews. Interestingly he also complained about globalization.


In the convoluted reasoning of the bourgeoisie, (the primary agents for globalisation incidentally), black is white and night is day. Thus denial comes easy to their lips for such is the world of their twilight reasoning.
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