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Re: Airline Pilot to eat his Internet Hat

Unread postby dolanbaker » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 18:58:10

OilFinder2 wrote:
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AirlinePilot wrote: I would also suggest that if one is honest about it there appears to be serious resistance at the 13,000 level.

I would suggest that if one is honest about it there appears to be serious support at the 13,000 level!

Ahem.

>>> 13,292 <<<

Took a promise to print an infinite quantity of Euros to achieve that, plus the hint of a similar number of Dollars as well.

So now how do those figures relate to value?
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Re: Airline Pilot to eat his Internet Hat

Unread postby seenmostofit » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 19:27:44

dolanbaker wrote:
So now how do those figures relate to value?


Depends on how you define "value" doesn't it? Certainly buying stock tracking funds and mutual funds has been a better "value" than investing in real estate over the past 4 years, and much better than CD's and whatnot as well. When other forms of investment are returning 0%, those returning >0% certainly have more "value". Have gold tracking funds even done as well as the market since the Great Depression II which wasn't kicked off at the end of 2008?
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Re: Airline Pilot to eat his Internet Hat

Unread postby dolanbaker » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 19:54:00

I would consider essential commodities (foodstuffs, fuel & raw materials) as being the best indicator of value, using that definition, most currencies are losing value. Compared to commodities, most stock markets appear to be slipping.
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Re: Airline Pilot to eat his Internet Hat

Unread postby seenmostofit » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 21:08:11

dolanbaker wrote:I would consider essential commodities (foodstuffs, fuel & raw materials) as being the best indicator of value, using that definition, most currencies are losing value. Compared to commodities, most stock markets appear to be slipping.


Well, essential commodities are certainly valuable, but so is a stock tracking fund which has doubled in value over the past 3-1/2 years or so? And commodities can substituted for and mitigated against, for example using less gasoline, even if the price is higher. Same with foodstuffs (eat less meat, save the planet!), electricity (mine has actually gone down with tiered pricing), and various other things. Or is it just that small increases in foodstuffs and whatnot don't sting as much as a doubling of paper profits in a stock account, which has a much higher happy-happy joy-joy feel about it?
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Re: Airline Pilot to eat his Internet Hat

Unread postby rangerone314 » Sun 09 Sep 2012, 02:20:27

Was a dumb bet to pick a number in dollars anyway, which doesn't indicate value of the stocks. It indicates value of the dollar. Curious that gold is climbing back up also.

If the spot price of gold is $1736 and Dec 2011 it was $1600, does that mean gold is more valuable or that the dollar is LESS valuable?
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Re: Airline Pilot to eat his Internet Hat

Unread postby dolanbaker » Thu 15 Nov 2012, 07:10:47

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/mark ... _month.stm

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index value        change        %            52 wk-h          52 wk-l
12570.95        -185.23       -1.45           13610.15          11231.78    


Looks Like AP can wear his hat again. ;)
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Re: Airline Pilot to eat his Internet Hat

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Fri 16 Nov 2012, 00:32:12

Hah!!!...never took it off! 8)
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