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Unread postby seenmostofit » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:35:33

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seenmostofit wrote:most will choose to live in the reality presented

Most?


Sure. Most. Those with dissociative disorders are not a majority of the population, therefore those who live reality as it is, are.

Do you have an estimate of how many posts you will make avoiding the topic at hand, and are unable to refute the information provided? If so, let us know, I will wait until you are done, and we can return to the topic after you are finished.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby pstarr » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:47:05

seenmostofit wrote:
pstarr wrote:
seenmostofit wrote:most will choose to live in the reality presented

Most?


Sure. Most. Those with dissociative disorders are not a majority of the population, therefore those who live reality as it is, are.

Do you have an estimate of how many posts you will make avoiding the topic at hand, and are unable to refute the information provided? If so, let us know, I will wait until you are done, and we can return to the topic after you are finished.
Peanut butter? That is what you said (and I paraphrase) "Most people wouldn't care if they were forced to pump peanut butter into their gas tanks."

And you speak of dissociative states? Get lost, creep. == (the door)
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby dorlomin » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:51:40

seenmostofit wrote:As King has noted, the vitriol aimed at anyone who does not toe the company line is is not appreciated. Such religious zeal belongs
Interesting attempt at the passive aggressive "victim" angle.

Ignoring the gratuitous strawmen, the mocking tone and the selection of only a the more extreme views of those who say that oil is at or near the peak and attacking all with the conclusions of the few. Then to claim that anyone who finds such tactics to be little more than trolling as 'religious zealots' because there is one fact that you can point to that, this justconfirms that you are in fact just trolling.


Let us look here.
Your information must be faulty. The EIA must be just clueless. Hasn't anyone told them that increasing oil production is no longer possible? Is there a website we can go to which will give us the answers we want, rather than forcing us into waiting for the next peak oil?
Taking the view of the extreme that peak oil is past and there is no chance of any rise in production, ignoring the more moderate view and then mocking the entire site.

But to call you on it and you play the goat, claiming anyone who calls you on your trolling is a religious zealot.

The persistent hyperbole, sense of unearned superiority, the clear fact you are not here to discuss or engage just make a nuisance of yourself for sport... and the and off course the faux outrage.

You come across as little more than a child scribbling away with crayons.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby seenmostofit » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:57:26

dorlomin wrote:But to call you on it and you play the goat, claiming anyone who calls you on your trolling is a religious zealot.


No, only one poster, who was demonstrating the trait. Are you suggesting it is a more common trait than has been demonstrated to date?
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Unread postby dorlomin » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 14:11:00

seenmostofit wrote:No, only one poster, who was demonstrating
You have me confused with someone who wants to play your little games my child.

You do not change no matter how many times you are banned and return.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby pstarr » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 14:15:49

seenmostofit wrote:
dorlomin wrote:But to call you on it and you play the goat, claiming anyone who calls you on your trolling is a religious zealot.


No, only one poster, who was demonstrating the trait. Are you suggesting it is a more common trait than has been demonstrated to date?
Ralfy is not the only regular poster here at PO.com to demonstrate patience with lurkers and trolling debunkers. I consider myself quite adept (if I must say so myself.) So I guess you are wrong again. and again. and again.
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Unread postby vision-master » Thu 19 Jul 2012, 09:12:37

Shorty (seenmostofit) is now stirring things @ The Oil Age now..........
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Unread postby ralfy » Thu 19 Jul 2012, 09:28:08

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Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 20 Jul 2012, 07:09:09

Most of us have had our digital butts kicked around here at least once.
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Unread postby meemoe_uk » Mon 11 Feb 2013, 04:15:29

There's been a lot of hysterics and recitation of the PO myths recently on PO.com.
Just thought I'd update this thread as a reminder to all.

This is C&C, a standard that hasn't change since the 1970s. No new types of oil. It's the old conventional oil standard.

EIA : A new monthly world record was set in April 2012 of 75,992,795 Avergae bpd.
In a couple of months the EIA wil revise its data again to show that by the old 1970s standards, 2012 will set a new world yearly production record.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 11 Feb 2013, 16:46:43

meemoe_uk wrote:There's been a lot of hysterics and recitation of the PO myths recently on PO.com.
Just thought I'd update this thread as a reminder to all.

This is C&C, a standard that hasn't change since the 1970s. No new types of oil. It's the old conventional oil standard.

EIA : A new monthly world record was set in April 2012 of 75,992,795 Avergae bpd.
In a couple of months the EIA wil revise its data again to show that by the old 1970s standards, 2012 will set a new world yearly production record.
One-month noise. We have been on a peak plateau since 2005.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby Buddy_J » Mon 11 Feb 2013, 19:19:45

pstarr wrote:One-month noise. We have been on a peak plateau since 2005.


There is this guy named Stuart, has all sorts of cool graphs. It does sort of look like a plateau, but only recently, and not at a bad rate either. Is variation of +10% since 2009 really a plateau?

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Found this one as well from an old TOD posting.

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Comparing one to another would seem to indicate.....what? That IEA was actually right in their projections?
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 11 Feb 2013, 21:49:25

Buddy, this thread was resurrected to highlight EIA Crude Oil production for crude oil only, not liquids. That figure has barely moved off a decade-long plateau, in spite of record high prices. Your two charts measure other liquid also, including ethanol, NGL's processor gains, and biodiesel. You, in affect, have posted two off-topic charts, or at least charts for another discussion. And one is way out of date, from 2005.
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Unread postby SamInNebraska » Mon 11 Feb 2013, 23:40:35

Pstarr is right Buddy. Peak oil refers to only a specific type of oil, specific density, found under specific conditions. If we counted ALL oil the exercise becomes ridiculous and lets economists in the door with their weird ideas of increasing oil production just because someone throws a little bit more money at fields like, hell, Kern River or Kuparuk River or even Prudhoe Bay (as they say, let CTD in the door and who in the hell knows who you wake up with in the morning).

So forget about all those fancy charts showing things which can be put in a gas tank, or burned in some form or fashion, or are used to make a component of gasoline or diesel or anything like that, only certain types and densities of oils work, and you need to learn them so you aren't distracted by all the other things you can put into your suburban perspective.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 12 Feb 2013, 01:18:16

SamInNebraska wrote:Pstarr is right Buddy. Peak oil refers to only a specific type of oil, specific density, found under specific conditions. If we counted ALL oil the exercise becomes ridiculous and lets economists in the door with their weird ideas of increasing oil production just because someone throws a little bit more money at fields like, hell, Kern River or Kuparuk River or even Prudhoe Bay (as they say, let CTD in the door and who in the hell knows who you wake up with in the morning).

So forget about all those fancy charts showing things which can be put in a gas tank, or burned in some form or fashion, or are used to make a component of gasoline or diesel or anything like that, only certain types and densities of oils work, and you need to learn them so you aren't distracted by all the other things you can put into your suburban perspective.
Hopeless. Stretching the definition of petroleum to include corn liquor, lighter fluid, propane, hemp oil, and turkey guts actually makes perfect sense; it renders folks like you happy, compliant, and willing to take on even more debt. Good luck with that, Sam. Happy times are just around the corner. :)
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby OilFinder2 » Tue 12 Feb 2013, 01:58:11

There's a thread for all-liquids here.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 12 Feb 2013, 02:25:42

OilFinder2 wrote:There's a thread for all-liquids here.
Thanks for reference, man. I am more than proud to call you on your investment scams. Anytime.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby ralfy » Tue 12 Feb 2013, 03:26:08

Buddy_J wrote:
pstarr wrote:One-month noise. We have been on a peak plateau since 2005.


There is this guy named Stuart, has all sorts of cool graphs. It does sort of look like a plateau, but only recently, and not at a bad rate either. Is variation of +10% since 2009 really a plateau?

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Found this one as well from an old TOD posting.

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Comparing one to another would seem to indicate.....what? That IEA was actually right in their projections?


Stuart Staniford?

http://earlywarn.blogspot.com/2011/09/p ... apita.html

See, also, the second chart here with information from the EIA:

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2012- ... end-growth

Finally, from BP:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailycha ... onsumption
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby meemoe_uk » Tue 12 Feb 2013, 05:20:42

>One-month noise.
Wrong. Every month in the EIA table for 2012 has higher C&C production than the highest month in 2005.

As OF2 correctly predicted, 2011 did indeed surpass the 2005 record for C&C.
This record is set to be surpassed again by 2012, by a much greater margin. We are just waiting for the EIA to update their figures.

2005 average C&C = 73.64Mbpd
2011 average C&C = 74.08Mbpd
2012 average C&C = 75.49Mbpd ( up to October )

It would take slightly less than a miracle for 2012 not to set a new record for C&C production.

>We have been on a peak plateau since 2005.
In all liquid fuel we shot off the 2004-2010 plateau in early 2010. One year later the same thing happened in C&C. C&C production will continue to rise for the next few years. It's a obvious result of the 2001 oil industry upheaval.
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Re: It's official: New monthly world crude oil production re

Unread postby OilFinder2 » Thu 21 Mar 2013, 01:24:26

I am bumping this (year old) post for the sake of Graeme, who seems to be completely oblivious to any sort of oil production data for at least the past few years.

And BTW, with the EIA's November data out, the world needs to have produced just 59 million barrels/day in December in order to establish yet another yearly C&C production record! 8O Since every month since Oct 2011 has seen production of at least 74 million barrels/day, creating that new record should be a piece of cake. 8)

OilFinder2 wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. May I have your attention please.

The EIA has now reported that the world has a new crude and condensate production record. As of December, 75.4 million barrels/day were produced, compared to the previous records of 74.8 million barrels/day in November, 75.2 million barrels/day in December 2010, and 74.6 million barrels/day in July 2008. Numbers are rounded off.

We also have a new yearly crude & condensate record of 73.964 million barrels/day, eclipsing the previous record of 73.889 million barrels/day set in 2010. Yes, that's correct: Last year the world produced nearly 74 million barrels per day.

Thank you, and have a nice day. :)
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