Welcome to the Rest of Our Lives

[dohboi]

Welcome to the rest of our lives

Watch the video!

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/0 ... our-lives/

I am planning to give Mark Lynas' Six Degrees to most everyone I know. It looks like the clearest, best-sourced road map for what we have ahead of us (and right now, for that matter).

[dinopello]

I'm afraid that Rex Tillerson's response in the video is the most realistic - we will try to adapt. He says we will adapt but I think how well that goes depends on how fast things change and if there is any chance we would do some prep work - which as of now doesn't look likely. Adapting with prep (at the national level) might mean remaking our settlement patterns, water projects to buffer against drought and enhancing our transport systems among other things.

[AgentR11]

Well... adaptation is a funny thing; those that don't, end up irrelevant, those that do, define the future "we". Thus, we *WILL* adapt; if a few billion don't make the cut, well, that's just the way it is.

[dinopello]

Well... adaptation is a funny thing; those that don't, end up irrelevant, those that do, define the future "we". Thus, we *WILL* adapt; if a few billion don't make the cut, well, that's just the way it is.

It seems like you are talking more about individual survival rather than societal adaptation, which is what I thought Tillerson was referring to. But I could be wrong, maybe the 'we' in his statement was his immediate family.

[glaucus]

Great video. A little melodramatic with the strings and all, but very much on-point. This past weekend I heard George Will, in response to concerns about the heatwave, say something to the effect of: "it's summertime, people.... it's supposed to be hot." And then everybody on the panel started talking about baseball.

After years of listening to the denial and delusion, I'm convinced that humans will do absolutely nothing to curb emissions let alone admit that human activity is to blame. I think I can boil down the future to something along the lines of:

"All who live will adapt, but all who adapt will not live."

Let the cards will fall where they may.

[dinopello]

More weather reports like this?

[Fishman]

On the other hand, after years of listening to the delusional liberal viewpoint from a scientific viewpoint, I'm convinced that humans CAN do absolutely nothing to curb emissions, and I could care less that human activity may be to blame.

[glaucus]

Fishman wrote:

On the other hand, after years of listening to the delusional liberal viewpoint from a scientific viewpoint, I'm convinced that humans CAN do absolutely nothing to curb emissions, and I could care less that human activity may be to blame.

Yeah, that seems to be the popular view on things these days. I get the feeling my life would be a lot less stressful if I could get on that bandwagon.

[AdTheNad]

On the other hand, after years of listening to the delusional liberal viewpoint from a scientific viewpoint, I'm convinced that humans CAN do absolutely nothing to curb emissions, and I could care less that human activity may be to blame.

Keep making Christians proud Fishman.

[vision-master]

On the other hand, after years of listening to the delusional liberal viewpoint from a scientific viewpoint, I'm convinced that humans CAN do absolutely nothing to curb emissions, and I could care less that human activity may be to blame.

Hey fish........ nice pic. lsol

[AgentR11]

The "we" I used is neither individual, nor a continuous expression of civilization, but rather the simple collection of those who do adapt and survive. They then end up defining by default what it means to be a human society.

[vision-master]

Survive? Like a lizard........... at best you have 40 solar years left on this Planet.

"The program for this evening is not new
You've seen this entertainment
Through and through
You've seen your birth, your life and death
You might recall all the rest
Did you have a good world when you died?
Enough to base a movie on?"

[dinopello]

Fishman wrote:

On the other hand, after years of listening to the delusional liberal viewpoint from a scientific viewpoint, I'm convinced that humans CAN do absolutely nothing to curb emissions, and I could care less that human activity may be to blame.

Yeah, that seems to be the popular view on things these days. I get the feeling my life would be a lot less stressful if I could get on that bandwagon.

Yep, I just wish everyone would be as honest about it.

Saw some comedian the other night. He was talking about how he's getting on in years now where he notices the teens treating him like an old man ("hurry up, old man" etc). He's decided not to care about the future anymore as his response - "Enjoy the heat, punk" - "I'll leave the light on for you".

[Fishman]

Vision, thats my daddy. I've eligble for more letters after my name than in my name. You offer no scientific evidence that man can change enough to change potential outcome. The recent recession which has decimated the world economy has only slowed carbon output. Please show evidence otherwise, if not, I have to assume that was a self portrait.
So nad, please inform me how your alternative theology counters my scientific statement.
For more data
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... l-age.html

[vision-master]

You offer no scientific evidence that man can change enough to change potential outcome.

Hundredth monkey effect
The hundredth monkey effect is a supposed phenomenon in which a learned behavior spreads rapidly from one group of monkeys to all related monkeys once a critical number of initiates is reached. By generalization it means the instantaneous spreading of an idea or ability to the remainder of a population once a certain portion of that population has heard of the new idea or learned the new ability by some unknown process currently beyond the scope of science. The story behind this supposed phenomenon originated with Lawrence Blair and Lyall Watson in the mid-to-late 1970s, who claimed that it was the observation of Japanese scientists.