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US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 06 Jun 2012, 16:19:11

Lore wrote: NG will remain a side show for most of these companies for many years to come...


Possibly----it depends on how quickly oil prices go up due to peak oil. As oil prices go higher, alternative fuels like NG become more attractive.

Some trucking lines are converting parts of their fleets to NG now.

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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby Lore » Wed 06 Jun 2012, 16:36:43

Plantagenet wrote:
Lore wrote: NG will remain a side show for most of these companies for many years to come...


Possibly----it depends on how quickly oil prices go up due to peak oil. As oil prices go higher, alternative fuels like NG become more attractive.

Some trucking lines are converting parts of their fleets to NG now.

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Yes, and as more try to switch to less expensive alternatives, the prices of those will also go up accordingly. Simple law of supply and demand.

I would also add, that on an energy equivalent, NG gives you about 70% of the value of oil.
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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 15 Jun 2012, 19:26:13

Mack Trucks announces two new models for 2013 that run on Natural Gas

Mack Trucks to run on NG

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New Mack NG trucks hitting the road in 2013 will do their part to help in the fight against peak oil
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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 11 Aug 2012, 11:47:15

While the feds continue to tout costly electric cars, state goverments plan switch from gasoline to NG

state governments starting to switch fleets to NG

This will facilitate state by state growth of NG gas stations.
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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby pstarr » Sun 12 Aug 2012, 00:10:20

Here's an idea planty! Try acting like a "scientist" instead of a partisan republican "consumer".

Show us some "progress," data demonstrating an ongoing and active conversion to NG; ie. historic conversions, past, current, and projected conversion. Those numbers should demonstrate when NG use will increase enought to mitigate the ongoing decline of conventional crude production and the depletion of reserves. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Not press releases. okay? thanks :)
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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby peripato » Mon 13 Aug 2012, 07:08:07

pstarr wrote:Here's an idea planty! Try acting like a "scientist" instead of a partisan republican "consumer".

Show us some "progress," data demonstrating an ongoing and active conversion to NG; ie. historic conversions, past, current, and projected conversion. Those numbers should demonstrate when NG use will increase enought to mitigate the ongoing decline of conventional crude production and the depletion of reserves. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Not press releases. okay? thanks :)

Indeed, what a laff. :lol: There's only about 15 million NG/CNG powered vehicles in the entire world as of last year and most of them, retain the ability to use, or even require the use of ordinary everyday petrol! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 14 Aug 2012, 20:26:32

I've seen trucks working on NG decades ago.
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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby dsula » Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:44:24

Pretorian wrote:I've seen trucks working on NG decades ago.

Where? In Pretoria?
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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:44:27

NG vehicle sales are increasing rapidly, and are projected to reach 15 million vehicles PER YEAR globally by 2015 (sales estimate is trucks and cars combined). Key vendors dominating the NG market space include Fiat S.p.A., Ford Motor Co., Suzuki Motors Corp., Volkswagen AG,. Honda Motor Co. Ltd., Toyota Motor Corp., Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, Mercedes-Benz, Renault S.A., Capacity of Texas Inc., Cummins Westport Inc., Freightliner, Volvo, Weichai Power Co. Ltd., Altech-Eco Corp., Fuel Systems Solutions Inc., GNC Galileo S.A., Kraus Global Inc., Magneti Marelli S.p.A., and Bosch Group :)

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Re: US truckers switching from Diesel to NG

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:45:41

dsula wrote:
Pretorian wrote:I've seen trucks working on NG decades ago.

Where? In Pretoria?

No , I've seen those trucks in Soviet Union. Gasoline was ridiculously cheap , so obviously it wasn't an act of desperation.
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