pstarr wrote:But you also must agree that when all the energy/money goes into getting energy, then no energy is left over for other stuff? You have to agree, right?
Of course. But you have to agree that an enormous industrial output today geared towards sensless cunsumption is available. I look around my 'hood and see RVs, ATVs, lawn-mowers, kids with truck loads of toys, TVs, cellphones, inefficient use of cars. Is it really such a big drop in quality of life if you have to read a book instead of watching a movie in your home theater? I don't think so. Is it really such a big drop in quality of life if you have a goat mowing your 2 acre lawn instead of cut to perfection with a John Deere? I don't think so.
The crucial question is; when does that happen? You assume it is in the distant future. I on the other hand understand that the event is not a single point time (just as peak is not a single day, month, or even year, but a plateau) but a slow, almost imperceptible process that is clearly underway right now as shown by Hamilton and the Oil Expense Indicator.
I agree it's underway, and I agree it's a slow grinding down over SEVERAL DECADES.
TSHTF event as many on this forum cry for is simply not in the near future. However it will come, no doubt there.
(just as peak is not a single day, month, or even year, but a plateau)
No, it's a single day, month, even nano-second. Such is the definition of peak.
Have a nice week-end. It's half-past MILLER !!