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Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of hydrocarbon depletion.

Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 18:56:28

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05. The United States has accumulated the biggest mountain of government debt in the history of the world.

18. There is more student loan debt in America than anywhere else in the world.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/230792.html

When the facts come into sharp focus you have to wonder why the USA empire is not in a depression already.

The only question i really have left is when will it all fall down and the blood loss from a thousand cuts catch up to the USA.


When historians look back at this time period in a decade or two, they will likely conclude that Western economies managed to stay afloat only because of (1) plentiful cheap oil; (2) plentiful debt; (3) plentiful fiat currencies; (4) plentiful suckers to buy the debt and accept the fiat money; and (5) plentiful deceptions and distractions to keep the sheeple content.

Now that the sovereign debt bubble has popped and the dominoes are falling, and now that the age of CHEAP OIL is over, the collapse of Western societies will seem inevitable to historians.

The unleashing of the Greek contagion will be regarded as a hallmark milestone as the nails in the coffin of Western economies continue their downward trajectory.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 18:58:23

A lot of valid points there but take 300 million odd 1st worlders anywhere and many of those stats fall over. The USA is by far the biggest such population, even if 100 million are effectively poor.

When the facts come into sharp focus you have to wonder why the USA empire is not in a depression already.

The only question i really have left is when will it all fall down and the blood loss from a thousand cuts catch up to the USA.

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Because of the Petrodollar effect. Everyone knows the USA is burying itself in debt, but what option is there but to keep allowing it to do so? The USA can't go down the gurgler without taking most of the global economy with it. The current mess is Europe, along with China's continuing refusal for a free float of their currency, assure Petrodollar hegemony for at least another 8 years IMO. Meaning another 8 years of exponential debt growth in the scramble to make up for several decades of inaction. The mess will keep getting more complex until it unravels. That is, if Israel doesn't drag us all into WW3 beforehand.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Pops » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:03:25

NYT is blasé:
The decision to invoke the collection action clauses showed that European policy makers no longer feared that setting off the swaps could put stress on the financial system. Certain parts of the credit-default swap market helped destabilize the financial system during the 2008 financial crisis. Since then, however, banks and regulators have taken steps to strengthen the market, mostly by making sure that investors can pay out the money they owe on swaps.


This is kinda what I figured/hoped, this is not a surprise, people are bound to have been unwinding and covering their bets... I guess.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby AgentR11 » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:25:15

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Daniel_Plainview wrote:One of the most fudged numbers is the bogus inflation figure. The govt will do everything possible to keep this as low as can be.
So you admit inflation is higher than the government says.


I think those that find fiat currency and debt to be generally "wrong"; have a hard time accepting that the Fed really did manage to pull off price stability through the period of a hard contraction and then doubled down on awesome by finessing the return of inflationary pressure in the face of a nominal economic expansion.

Prices held.

Only problem is that a large number of folks lost significant net worth and income, and haven't recovered it yet; matched against an above CPI increase in the cost of food and fuel. That an increase in the cost of fuel is a desired objective of the current administration, makes it less likely that any relief will be coming to those who lost ground across the recession. People kinda "feel" strong inflation, because they care now about prices they didn't care about before, even if the prices really haven't changed all that much. (other than fuel of course).
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:39:27

Pops wrote:NYT is blasé:
The decision to invoke the collection action clauses showed that European policy makers no longer feared that setting off the swaps could put stress on the financial system. Certain parts of the credit-default swap market helped destabilize the financial system during the 2008 financial crisis. Since then, however, banks and regulators have taken steps to strengthen the market, mostly by making sure that investors can pay out the money they owe on swaps.


This is kinda what I figured/hoped, this is not a surprise, people are bound to have been unwinding and covering their bets... I guess.


Greece is not the issue. The issue is the precedent that has been established, and the contagion that has been unleashed. The precedent/contagion is indeed extremely disconcerting to potential investors in sovereign debt: (1) they have suffered historic losses of between 66%-80%; (2) they have had to undergo 3 years of bullshit; (3) they have witnessed unprecedented deception and damage control by Eurozone officials; (4) they have experienced unprecedented coercion and duress; (5) they have witnessed unilateral and RETROACTIVE modification of their bond contracts to unprecedented and undreampt-of degrees; (6) they have seen the pernicious effects of AUSTERITY, especially how austerity amplifies and magnifies the downward spiral of economic depression; (7) they have witnessed their CDS insurance reduced to a virtual nullity, it being understood that the ISDA will avoid a CDS trigger at all costs; and (8) etc etc ...

Look at the before/after:

BEFORE: Sovereign debts are viewed as a AAA investment, as secure as can be;

AFTER: Sovereign debts are viewed as an ultra-risky, highly bullshit-laden investment that are fraught with perils and headaches, and WHICH CAN BE MODIFIED RETROACTIVELY & UNILATERALLY.

This is a landmark day in the history of sovereign creditor-debtor relationships ... and the precedent that has been established is extremely negative. If investors want to be willfully blind to this, so be it. But the evidence/pattern is as plain as can be.

Why would the media seek to downplay this historic event? You figure it out.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby radon » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:54:14

SeaGypsy wrote:A lot of valid points there but take 300 million odd 1st worlders anywhere and many of those stats fall over.


Indeed. Only China and India are bigger than the US in terms of population. Keeping this mind, many of these statistics lose relevance, and some speak in favor of the US actually.

22. The United States spends more money on government schools than any other nation on earth does.
No comment.

31. More people have been diagnosed with mental disorders in America than anywhere else on earth.
This may well be due to the high quality of the medical services and good coverage rate.


38. The United States has the most complicated tax system on the entire planet.

This one is spot on though. Amazing how they live with it and do nothing to simplify it.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:58:56

So how long before the same follows through the rest of the system? Up to the USA? Is this the real reason for war (as an attempt to hit the reset button)?
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 20:08:58

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Daniel_Plainview wrote:One of the most fudged numbers is the bogus inflation figure. The govt will do everything possible to keep this as low as can be.

So you admit inflation is higher than the government says.

But ... but ... you said
The truth is that the US economy has been in a deflationary depression since October, 2008

I love it! :lol: We're in a deflationary depression, but ... we've got inflation! And it's higher than than the government's fudged numbers.

Pardon me while I insert a half dozen laughing smilies at the obvious contradiction!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Good job. You win the dunce-of-the-day award.

The govt/Fed is actively fighting the deflationary depression (caused by a collapse of the credit bubble in 2008) by printing massive amounts of fiat dollars (QE/monetization) while trying to blow new credit bubbles (e.g., the student loan bubble).

Thus, you simultaneously have (1) an underlying trajectory of a deflationary depression which is superimposed upon (2) desperate attempts by the Fed/govt to reinflate the credit bubble wherever and whenever possible, including massively inflating student loan debt.

Do you understand now?

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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 21:04:03

Pops wrote:NYT is blasé:
The decision to invoke the collection action clauses showed that European policy makers no longer feared that setting off the swaps could put stress on the financial system. Certain parts of the credit-default swap market helped destabilize the financial system during the 2008 financial crisis. Since then, however, banks and regulators have taken steps to strengthen the market, mostly by making sure that investors can pay out the money they owe on swaps.


This is kinda what I figured/hoped, this is not a surprise, people are bound to have been unwinding and covering their bets... I guess.


Greece Has Defaulted: Here Is Where We Stand

After reading this, everyone should have a fairly good grasp of what happened not only today, but ever since the great (and quite endless) European financial crisis took center stage, and what to look forward to next...

From Chindit13

In a nutshell---okay, a coconut shell---this seems to be where we are:

(1) Greece was able to write off 100 billion euros worth of debt in exchange for a 130 billion rescue package of new debt, of which Greece itself will receive 19%, or about 25 billion, so that it can continue to operate as an ongoing concern. Somehow Greece is in a better position than before, with more debt and less sovereignty and still---by virtue of sharing a common currency---trying to compete toe-to-toe with the likes of Germany and the Netherlands, kind of like being the Yemeni National Basketball team in an Olympic bracket that includes the US, Spain and Germany. At least a "within the euro" default prevented bank runs in Portugal, Spain, Italy et al.

2) As a result of the bond haircuts, Greece has many pension plans that can no longer even pretend to be viable, at least according to the original contracted scheme, but pensionholders still working can take heart in the fact that their current wages will be cut, too.

3) CDS buyers will have to sweat bullets, jump through hoops, and be forced to endure every cliche known to man, but they might end up getting something for all their trouble, provided their counterparty is solvent and that counterparty itself is not heavily exposed to an insolvent party or a NTBTF institution, otherwise known as a Lehman Brothers. Expect the legal profession to be the prime beneficiary of this "event", as any new CDS contract will be at least a hundred pages of boilerplate longer in the future.

4) Good luck to any less than AAA rated sovereign who wants to issue debt from now on out. That contracts can now be unilaterally abrogated, as Greece' bonds were with the retro-CACs, bodes ill for attractive pricing from here on out. Peripherals in the EU will suffer most, as they face the added indignity of being subordinated to the ECB at any point the ECB chooses to exercise its divine right of seniority. The thing that used to be called the risk free rate no longer exists. Bill Sharpe take note.

5) One hundred billion euros worth of perceived wealth evaporated. That can not be a good thing for a Eurobanking system already capital short, as it raises leverage (quick back of the envelop calculation) by about 6% across the board. It also will not make the interbank market any more trusting, thus increasing the likelihood of perpetual LTRO. LTRO lll looks to arrive sooner than QE lll.

6) With the drawn-out Greek event and the LTRO, Europe might believe it has firewalled the system for at least three years and limited damage to Greece and Portugal (who will likely undergo a similar default by the 3rd quarter). LTRO-provided liquidity, it is hoped, will lower market rates enough in Spain and Italy so that those countries can meet sovereign bond obligations and both service existing debt and issue new debt. When the LTRO expires in 2015, "hopefully" something called organic growth will have taken over in countries imposing severe austerity measures on their public sectors, so that debt servicing becomes easier. Organic growth obviously is something that comes in a can, a can which has been kicked out to 2015.

7) As Europe now speaks increasingly of greater EU financial integration, Sarkozy's poll numbers will be the victim and a less EU friendly individual will likely win the upcoming election. Since France and Germany fortunately have a long and storied history of being the best of friends, and no one in either country would ever pander to nationalist sentiments, this shouldn't present a problem.

8] Given how much angst was caused by the drawn out Greek affair, the Spanish leader knows he has enormous leverage with EU leadership and he can continue to do what he has been doing with regard to ignoring the deficit targets demanded/suggested by the EU. The EU might well bark at him, but they cannot afford to bite at this time. Muchos gracias, Greece.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby OilFinder2 » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 21:05:30

Daniel_Plainview wrote:The govt/Fed is actively fighting the deflationary depression (caused by a collapse of the credit bubble in 2008) by printing massive amounts of fiat dollars (QE/monetization) while trying to blow new credit bubbles (e.g., the student loan bubble).

Thus, you simultaneously have (1) an underlying trajectory of a deflationary depression which is superimposed upon (2) desperate attempts by the Fed/govt to reinflate the credit bubble wherever and whenever possible, including massively inflating student loan debt.

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Sooooo predictable! :lol: Rhetorical twists and turns, simultaneously espousing both deflation and inflation at the same time! With heretofore unmentioned references to credit bubbles thrown in for good measure. I suppose in 1982 or thereabouts we had a deflationary inflation, with an underlying high inflation being artificially depressed by the Fed's jacking up of interest rates ... as if action by the Federal Reserve negates an underlying condition ... except that it doesn't. :lol:

Lemme guess ... the next rhetorical twist and turn is to somehow proclaim that jacking up interest rates sky-high in the early 80's to fight an underlying high inflation is somehow legitimate ... but, but ... engaging in zero interest rates and QE to fight an underlying low inflation or deflation in the 2010's isn't. Uh, yeah. :roll:
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby TheAntiDoomer » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 21:57:30

OILY, the doomer meltdown in this recovery has been nothing short of epic the last 2 pages :-D I expect to get even more fun this spring :o
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Lore » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 21:59:59

TheAntiDoomer wrote:OILY, the doomer meltdown in this recovery has been nothing short of epic the last 2 pages :-D I expect to get even more fun this spring :o


Epic...? It's not even mediocre. The real doom is yet to come.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby OilFinder2 » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 23:03:57

Just for the heck of it, now that the preliminary February data are out for this year, I'll update this table, the new numbers are in blue.
You can download the data yourself here. Select both seasonally adjusted and not seasonally adjusted, and you get 2 tables. Then you can download a spreadsheet.

The first thing you notice after looking over the 2 tables is, the unadjusted number for February is ALWAYS larger than the adjusted (headline) number. Also, February's unadjusted number is always larger than January's (except 2009).

So subtract January's unadjusted number from February's of the same. Here's what you get:
Feb 2002: +467K
Feb 2003: +412K
Feb 2004: +611K
Feb 2005: +826K
Feb 2006: +925K
Feb 2007: +689K
Feb 2008: +516K
Feb 2009: -241K
Feb 2010: +437K
Feb 2011: +821K
Feb 2012: +851K

Compare to the adjusted (headline) numbers:
Feb 2002: -146K
Feb 2003: -159K
Feb 2004: +44K
Feb 2005: +240K
Feb 2006: +316K
Feb 2007: +93K
Feb 2008: -84K
Feb 2009: -724K
Feb 2010: -35K
Feb 2011: +220K
Feb 2012: +227K

This gives us the seasonal adjustment number (SA-NSA):
Feb 2002: -613K
Feb 2003: -571K
Feb 2004: -567K
Feb 2005: -586K
Feb 2006: -609K
Feb 2007: -596K
Feb 2008: -600K
Feb 2009: -483K
Feb 2010: -472K
Feb 2011: -601K
Feb 2012: -624K

Given the unadjusted number of +851K I calculated here, if the BLS had used each of the previous 10 years' seasonal adjustment numbers instead of the -624K, they would have gotten for the headline/adjusted number:

Feb 2002: 851K - 613K = 238K
Feb 2003: 851K - 571K = 280K
Feb 2004: 851K - 567K = 284K
Feb 2005: 851K - 586K = 265K
Feb 2006: 851K - 609K = 242K
Feb 2007: 851K - 596K = 255K
Feb 2008: 851K - 600K = 251K
Feb 2009: 851K - 483K = 368K
Feb 2010: 851K - 472K = 379K
Feb 2011: 851K - 601K = 250K

Compare those bolded numbers to today's headline number of 227K. Every one of them is better than today's adjusted/headline print! :shock: In other words, the headline number the BLS came out with today was worse than it would have been had they used any of the seasonal adjustment numbers they used in the previous 10 years! 8O

I'll betcha they wouldn't tell that to you on Zerohedge! :lol:
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 12:03:02

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38. The United States has the most complicated tax system on the entire planet.

This one is spot on though. Amazing how they live with it and do nothing to simplify it.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Anvil » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 16:00:38

If Economy is Recovering, Why Are U.S. Cities Going Bankrupt?
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Mar 09, 2012 - 01:16 PM
By: EWI


As pundits chatter about an economic recovery, 80 miles east of San Francisco you'll find a city (pop. 292,000) facing bankruptcy:

Stockton is on the verge of becoming the largest city in the United States to declare bankruptcy...
San Francisco Chronicle (3/4)




Bloomberg reports (2/25) that it costs the city $175,000 just to get a consulting firm's fiscal evaluation. Management Partners issued a report which said:

...the city took on a large amount of debt in anticipation of ongoing growth that now exceeds the city's ability to pay. Compensation packages exceeded sustainable levels and the city assumed a significant liability for improved retiree health coverage without sufficient recurring revenues to cover growing costs...
Stockton also has one of the nation's highest home foreclosure rates and has been called "Foreclosureville USA."

And Moody's just downgraded Stockton's rating to Ba2, which is two levels below investment grade.

In the same Bloomberg article, the California State Treasurer said "The reputational stain can bleed onto other local issuers and the state, and that can hurt taxpayers in the bond market."

Yet in recent months investors have been enamored with municipal bonds. Our December Financial Forecast said:

No matter how thick the storm clouds over state and city finances become, the belief in a bullet-proof municipal bond market just seems to grow. As the [chart below] shows, the ratio of AAA municipal bond yields to comparably-dated U.S. Treasury yields rose...in August.



...investors still believe munis are safe, but we'll stick with our bearish forecast...the evidence continues to mount that a change for the worse is underway. Deflation will only accentuate the impact of waning revenue streams, underfunded pension liabilities and bloated labor costs.

Financial Forecast, Dec. 2011

Other municipalities facing recent bankruptcy include:

Jefferson County, Alabama (home of Birmingham)
Central Falls, Rhode Island
Boise County, Idaho
Jefferson County, Alabama is the biggest U.S. municipality to face bankruptcy; Stockton is the biggest city.

In fact, as of December there were eleven municipal bankruptcies in 2011. Many other cities face extreme financial woes.
Look under the hood so you can see what kind of condition our economic engine is really in. Prepare for what's ahead.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article33533.html

I believe the market oracle asks an important question why are there so many USA citys going bankrupt if there is an economic recovery going on?

Apparently 11 USA citys went broke in 2011 why has nobody heard about these thing in MSM?

It seems censorship is all around us, keeping us blind.

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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 23:08:20

Daniel_Plainview wrote:Greece is not the issue. The issue is the precedent that has been established, and the contagion that has been unleashed.


Yes indeed.

Yes indeed.

The headlines are about Greece, but the real story is not Greece but who is next. European leaders were right to be worried only a short while ago about contagion effects of a Greek default to the entire Euro system, which of course they now say doesn't exist. This week we look at Europe, and sort through the ever more fascinating implications of the news in today's headlines.

Greece itself is in free fall. The "benefits" of austerity have not become apparent, as the Greek economy saw growth rates of -0.2% in 2008, -3.3% in 2009, -3.4% in 2010, -6.9% in 2011, and...? The 4th quarter of last year saw a GDP fall of 7.5%. Do you see a trend here? The Greek economy is down by almost one-fifth in less than five years. Unemployment has risen to 20%, and 50% among young people, many of whom are leaving the country. Resentment has grown among ordinary Greeks over the austerity medicine ordered by international creditors, which has compounded the pain. Greek papers are full of stories blaming Germany for their problems.

By any standard, what will soon be a 20% drop can be classified as a depression. There is nothing on the horizon to suggest things will turn around any time soon. The country's public debt-to-GDP ratio currently stands at 160% of nominal gross domestic product, AFTER the debt restructuring. If Greece can find someone to lend them more money, it will only get worse.

The current agreement with the EU will not improve the economy, but require even more wage cuts, government spending cuts, and higher taxes and unemployment. ...
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Austria Faces $1.3 Billion Bank Injection After ISDA Trigger

Unread postby dolanbaker » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 23:19:31

Austria Faces $1.3 Billion Bank Injection After ISDA Triggers Greek CDS

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-0 ... k-cds.html

Austria is facing a capital injection of as much as 1 billion euros ($1.3 billion) into KA Finanz AG less than two weeks after bailing out Oesterreichische Volksbanken AG. (VBPS)

The International Swaps & Derivatives Association yesterday ruled that Greece’s use of collective action clauses forcing investors to take losses under the nation’s debt restructuring will trigger default insurance payouts.
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Re: Austria Faces $1.3 Billion Bank Injection After ISDA Tri

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 23:30:41

dolanbaker wrote:Austria Faces $1.3 Billion Bank Injection After ISDA Triggers Greek CDS

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-0 ... k-cds.html

Austria is facing a capital injection of as much as 1 billion euros ($1.3 billion) into KA Finanz AG less than two weeks after bailing out Oesterreichische Volksbanken AG. (VBPS)

The International Swaps & Derivatives Association yesterday ruled that Greece’s use of collective action clauses forcing investors to take losses under the nation’s debt restructuring will trigger default insurance payouts.


... and the dominoes fall ...

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Oh look! The dominoes are heading toward the house-of-cards! This can't be good!
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby dsula » Mon 12 Mar 2012, 09:18:16

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38. The United States has the most complicated tax system on the entire planet.

This one is spot on though. Amazing how they live with it and do nothing to simplify it.


Sometimes its easier to leave a complicated mess alone, if everyone already understands how to comply with the mess, rather than change all the rules, so everyone has to learn new stuff, and you make criminals out of honest intentioned people who failed to understand the new rules.

Imagine, if you make the tax system easy and straightforward you would put millions of tax preparers, lawyers and other leeches out of business. We can't have that.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 2

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Mon 12 Mar 2012, 12:48:47

Gas prices top $3.80 a gallon -- highest ever for March
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The national average price for a gallon of gasoline rose above the $3.80 mark Monday, resuming the advance that has plagued drivers throughout the winter. The average price rose nine-tenths of a cent, according to the survey of gas stations conducted for the motorist group AAA. It was the third straight advance, with prices gaining 3.4 cents a gallon over Saturday and Sunday.

A 27-day run of price increases ended last Tuesday with a 0.3-cent decline. The nationwide average was $3.51 a gallon a month ago and $3.77 a week ago. Last year at this time, the average price stood at $3.56 a gallon. The average price is down 31.3 cents, or about 7.6%, from the record high of $4.114 reported on July 17, 2008.

Gasoline averages more than $4 a gallon in four states: Alaska, California, Hawaii and Illinois. At nearly $4.44 a gallon, Hawaii ranks as the nation's high. Prices are within a nickel of the $4 mark in Connecticut, the District of Columbia, Michigan, Oregon, New York and Washington, according to AAA.


Obama's Approval Dives as Gas Prices Rise

The latest Washington Post/ABC News poll finds that disapproval of Obama's handling of the economy is getting worse as a result of rising gasoline prices. Nearly two-thirds of Americans say they disapprove of the way the president is handling the issue of rising gasoline prices, and only 26 percent approve of his work on the issue, the poll finds. Most Americans say higher gas prices are hurting their family finances.

The price per gallon of regular has risen above $3.80 per gallon nationally, with prices going up 3.4 cents per gallon over the last weekend alone, according to a survey for AAA, an organization representing motorists.

Fifty-nine percent of Americans give Obama negative ratings on the overall economy, and 50 percent give him strongly negative ratings, a deterioration by nine percentage points from last month. Earlier this month, Obama seemed to be moving beyond the long-time trouble in the economy.
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