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LENR, Rossi and the ECAT Thread pt 2 (merged)

Discussions of conventional and alternative energy production technologies.

Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Captain Thunderbolt » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 03:20:05

A SCAM?
Nah, couldn't possibly be a scam :roll:

http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=102146
Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: GUEST,Greg Watson, CEO, Green and Gold Energy
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 10:12 AM

So Keef you may still get your SunCubes despite the trashing job you have tried to do on me, GGE and the SunCube.

Why you didn't just give me a few months to get another distribution channel in place amazes me. You think GGE would really walk away from 3,500 registered expressions of interest? I never said that SunCubes would NOT be available to the general market, just that GGE would not be selling SunCubes to the general market. Understand?

As for investors, lets get this VERY clear. At this point in time there are NONE. It is my money on the table and at risk. If you think a banker will invest several hundred million to finance a 200 MW solar farm without being very sure about the business and the technology well I would like to know the banker.

So chill out man, what you want will happen.

All the best,
Greg Watson, CEO
Green and Gold Energy
http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au
+61 8 8365 5252

Any SunCubes on the market?
Any Ecats on the market?

How long should I chill out for? :(
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Captain Thunderbolt » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 03:43:43

"Dave Farnsworth
Global Energy Systems"


Ooh..... He must be a scientist..... he invented a Homo Polar Generator
http://www.globalenergysys.net/AdamTrom ... rator.html
(Do we really need gay Polar bears?)
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Captain Thunderbolt » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 03:55:36

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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Schadenfreude » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 06:21:49

Vortex
Alain Sepeda
Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:56:50 -0800

I think that the total scam is not an option, however it is clear that
Rossi is overconfident, overanticipating.

It is possible and even probable that he lied more or less, even possible
he make fake demo jus to get time to
find the working recipe...

I'm afraid he is lying much, but just to get time to find what he expect to
be the easy to find result.

maybe I'm wrong, but both the total scam, or the working device des not
match the fact.
IMHO something have worked so well that convince him to bend the facts to
get time. How far bend ?

note that this behavior is typical of scientist when they have the usual
funding problem, and they are convinced
something huge is near their finger...

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

Chemical Engineer
Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:32:25 -0800

I am kind of tired of hearing about Rossi. I would really like to hear
more about Defkalion. They waged a pretty good PR compaign with their
announcements and forum while it was operating. They published
professional looking specs. They showed some actual lab equipment and test
benches not just some carpenter tools like Rossi. To me they lend more
credibility to Rossi than Rossi does himself (ie. there must have been some
kW heat output albeit unstable from Rossi before the contract was
terminated) and they have advanced it. Krivit has been very quiet about
Defkalion.

Everyone else seems to only claim 10s to 100s of Watts of output vs 10s to
100s of kWatts out for Defkalion (and Rossi). DGT is my last best hope
that this thing(LENR) is almost ready for prime time...
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Laromi » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 11:07:34

never give up hope. Here's something else to to challenge the skeptics "Kapanadze_free_energy_100_KWATT_TMZ_demo_Turkey_part3A.flv" courtesy of OverUnity.com. :0
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 11:21:43

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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Captain Thunderbolt » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 12:26:54

OH!...........great Heavens to Auntie Betsy!
NOT another GREEN WIDGET SCAM?????

What is it with you Nexus Magazine addicts?

OOoooooooo0000000H!
We could all have FREE ENERGY except BIG OIL and them nasty Pseudo Sceptics keep on spoiling everything.


(don't bother us with facts, evidence, logic, reason,sanity and Zhit like that. Our opinions are worth just much as your opinions. blah...blah...blah....Professor Plognort said that ZPE hypo-polar pustubles could easily account for the excess COP Coprophillic phenomena. Gamma rays are completely harmless and easily deflagurised by Al-foil Millinery. )

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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 13:08:29

You act like funny man, but the truth is you are a nefarious poster. Again, how many times have you been banned from this 4um?
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Captain Thunderbolt » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 13:38:14

I cannot imagine why this forum would wish to ban anyone for speaking the incontestable truth.
Opinions are easily altered.
Facts remain unchanged.
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 14:08:31

Yes, the fact is you have been banned before from here.

Why must you continue to derail this thread?

Tell us the facts Blinky....
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Alcassin » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 19:34:19

Laromi wrote:never give up hope. Here's something else to to challenge the skeptics "Kapanadze_free_energy_100_KWATT_TMZ_demo_Turkey_part3A.flv" courtesy of OverUnity.com. :0


Oh, this is easy.
As long as it is against First Law of Thermodynamics as long it doesn't work. It is. It doesn't work. 8)
It doesn't work since 2004, when the film was done.
Moreover he tries to get electric power from an electric non-conductor - namely ground... Ground O_o Ground!!! Oh yeah, ground is the place where your lighting rod ends. That is unbelievably hilarious :lol: :lol: :lol:

Overunity is a hoax. It is a concept against known laws of physics.
Learn Steorn story.
Buy a physics schoolbook, you may find it helpful.

I'd love to remind you that this topic is about cold fusion, which happens to be a better scam story. At least cold fusionists are not trying to sell "free energy". It cannot be so easily discarded from start, but can be on other grounds than laws of thermodynamics.

NEXT!
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 19:40:13

vision-master wrote:You act like funny man, but the truth is you are a nefarious poster. Again, how many times have you been banned from this 4um?


Asks he who has himself been banned numerous times for complete off topic space cadet stonery, for the umpteenth time on this thread. Boring Vision. You are getting snarly in your old age. I suggest a little trip to Boston to visit our friend Dmitry. Meanwhile Blinky Thunderbum is welcomed for entertainingly bumping Carlhole's hyping Rossi/ Flakycon thread; by a vast majority of the few who keep reading this wonderful thread.
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 09:21:27

lol - makes me wonder who really is behind this 4um?

Big Oil most likey.......

This place breeds FEAR, exactly what TPTB want. :)

Check out all the banner ads. 8)
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Laromi » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 10:18:15

Alcassin wrote:
Laromi wrote:never give up hope. Here's something else to to challenge the skeptics "Kapanadze_free_energy_100_KWATT_TMZ_demo_Turkey_part3A.flv" courtesy of OverUnity.com. :0


Oh, this is easy.

As long as it is against First Law of Thermodynamics as long it doesn't work It is. It doesn't work: that was said against many other advances in science, including flight. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Overunity is a hoax. It is a concept against known laws of physics. Well, you said it, no more to be said from me.

Buy a physics schoolbook, you may find it helpful: Perhaps you could suggest a colour that does not clash with your kaleidoscopic id.

I'd love to remind you that this topic is about cold fusion: No it's not, it's a hit on Rossi similar to that awarded to Pons/Flieshman. The main difference in the latter case was that those that decried their work did so publicly and not from a shielded forum. Be adventurous, paint your drivel under your hand in the exposed public arena .

As I say, a lot of folk (shills) using this forum have, in the main, been deriding Rossi not his science. As you should be well aware by now, many creditable members of the scientific community have little or no problem with acceptance of LENR science and this acceptance appears to be quickly growing in universities, Academic/scientific groups, Industry etc. Why don't you publicly name shame and plague the a-foregoing academic parties with your drivel? Oh, you want me to do the footwork for you to remind you who they are? When somewhere along the line that information has already been provided for on this forum albeit under different styles, and over a couple of years. If you have retention difficulties read the whole lot over again yourself :P
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Laromi » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 10:50:55

[quote="Captain Thunderbolt"]I cannot imagine why this forum would wish to ban anyone for speaking the incontestable truth.

I see by your remarks that you must be a scholar of the arts - such a colourful misunderstanding of the English language - and the sciences - incontestable? My, incontestable; that evokes visions of my primary science master of many years ago wriggling violently in his final resting ground because someone "qualified?" to argue within the realms of science speaks of scientific truths as being incontestable. You are kidding me, aren't you. 8O
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Laromi » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 11:08:44

Laromi wrote:never give up hope. Here's something else to to challenge the skeptics "Kapanadze_free_energy_100_KWATT_TMZ_demo_Turkey_part3A.flv" courtesy of OverUnity.com. :0


I was of the hope this "off topic" may fill a void for those who have an addictive like rhetoric for railing against over-unity energy devices.
I'm a little disapointed that a few more posters didn't get themselves all in a tizz. :twisted:
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby Captain Thunderbolt » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 14:00:58

Let me give you a few easy examples Laromi
It is an INCONTESTABLE FACT that Rossi is not a scientist.
It is an INCONTESTABLE FACT that Rossi has criminal convictions.
It is an INCONTESTABLE FACT that the Ecat demonstrations were faked.
(a dribble of warm water for furx sake!!)

If you and the rest of the true believers wish to pursue your amusing hobby of nukes for dummies then please go right on ahead.
What fills me with the urge to defecate is when you act as cheerleader for Rossi and Defkalion who are clearly conducting a multi-million dollar scam.

BTW Overunity is also bollocks.
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 14:07:53

It is an INCONTESTABLE FACT that you have been banned from here more than once.
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 18:12:51

Hey Vision, the mods must be in on it to destroy free energy for big oil? :oops:

Otherwise why would they tolerate Blinky? It's as obvious as the nose on your face (between your eyes and your bong).

Rossi wasn't convicted for shoplifting but for environmental destruction and fraud. The worst kind of scammer, a vandal to boot.
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Re: Low Energy Nuclear Reaction or LENR

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:58:56

Have you been out to sea for to long? lsol
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