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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 13:55:38

Fishman wrote:As noted, most of the fish were released, I don't think the meat will go to waste. Most taxidermy mounts are fiberglass. They only need size and pictures. Almost all big fishing tournaments such as this one are all catch and release unless a record fish is caught or perhaps the largest for the tourney. If you want to cry over a fish stock, cry over the tuna cans at your local market.
A fish that size is probably a hundred years old. do you know at what age and size the bluefin starts reproducing? do you understand the exponential function?
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby Sixstrings » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:17:27

Ick..

For all we know this could be the last big bluefin. All to decorate some dude's living room, and his wife doesn't even like it:

Adams, 42, told Auckland Now that he'd like to place the tuna on the wall of his home, replacing a 30-pound snapper, but his wife isn't sure she wants something so large as a wall decoration.

"She says it will be like mounting a sofa," Adams said.

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I'm not an environmentalist wacko, but the fishery stock situation is so bad worldwide it's time for trophies to become taboo.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:19:52

Fishman wrote:As noted, most of the fish were released, I don't think the meat will go to waste. Most taxidermy mounts are fiberglass. They only need size and pictures. Almost all big fishing tournaments such as this one are all catch and release unless a record fish is caught or perhaps the largest for the tourney. If you want to cry over a fish stock, cry over the tuna cans at your local market.
I can (what little I eat) myself. From somewhat sustainable (????) albacore fisheries
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:23:36

Sixstrings wrote:Ick..

For all we know this could be the last big bluefin. All to decorate some dude's living room, and his wife doesn't even like it:

Adams, 42, told Auckland Now that he'd like to place the tuna on the wall of his home, replacing a 30-pound snapper, but his wife isn't sure she wants something so large as a wall decoration.

"She says it will be like mounting a sofa," Adams said.

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http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/32964/anglers+738-pound+pacific+bluefin+tuna+may+be+biggest+ever+caught/


I'm not an environmentalist wacko, but the fishery stock situation is so bad worldwide it's time for trophies to become taboo.
Like Fish said, the meat will be sold for $100,000 into the sushi trade. So the yuppies can act oh so sophisticated.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:52:25

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Does it come with duck sauce?
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 16:08:38

babystrangeloop wrote:Does it come with duck sauce?

You are confused. Duck sauce is artificially colored chinese/american sugar/cornstarch paste. The trendies eat their sushi with wasabi, green-tinted horseradish.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 16:14:16

pstarr wrote:
babystrangeloop wrote:Does it come with duck sauce?

You are confused. Duck sauce is artificially colored chinese/american sugar/cornstarch paste. The trendies eat their sushi with wasabi, green-tinted horseradish.

How about wafers?
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 16:23:43

babystrangeloop wrote:
pstarr wrote:
babystrangeloop wrote:Does it come with duck sauce?

You are confused. Duck sauce is artificially colored chinese/american sugar/cornstarch paste. The trendies eat their sushi with wasabi, green-tinted horseradish.

How about wafers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PJix23IeF8#t=24

That might as well be Hindustani for all I understand. Monty Python needs subtitles.

Of course it doesn't come with wafers.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby vaseline2008 » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 17:09:06

Fishman wrote:As noted, most of the fish were released, I don't think the meat will go to waste. Most taxidermy mounts are fiberglass.

I know, but I wish I was there when the taxidermist started up...yummy tuna. I say this with a tone of sarcasm...but the great thing about Peak Oil is that hopefully all the species that man has hunted down (everything from food to trophies) will cease and let them repopulate. In a less human populated world the remaining humans will have a better planet to live on. Unfortunately it means that the 99% will have to die off so that the 1% can enjoy the future Earth.

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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 17:20:53

vaseline2008 wrote:
Fishman wrote:As noted, most of the fish were released, I don't think the meat will go to waste. Most taxidermy mounts are fiberglass.

I know, but I wish I was there when the taxidermist started up...yummy tuna. I say this with a tone of sarcasm...but the great thing about Peak Oil is that hopefully all the species that man has hunted down (everything from food to trophies) will cease and let them repopulate. In a less human populated world the remaining humans will have a better planet to live on. Unfortunately it means that the 99% will have to die off so that the 1% can enjoy the future Earth.

Strive to be the 1% or die trying.

Yup. Gotta admit that peak oil is my hope for the world also. And I (along with the other 99.9999999%), am also striving (as we speak) to be the 1% :shock:
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby Fishman » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 19:45:51

Pstarr, as usual your facts, are well, not so much facts. The pacific bluefin is not listed as threatened, and the fish was by Wiki probably 30 - 40 years old max. The Japanese eat tons and tons of this fish, I'll not begrudge this guy of one. Ten, sure. Fishing tournaments have done more for fish conservation than your self canned sustainable??? albacore green trip will ever do.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Tue 06 Mar 2012, 20:25:34

Fishman wrote:Pstarr, as usual your facts, are well, not so much facts. The pacific bluefin is not listed as threatened, and the fish was by Wiki probably 30 - 40 years old max. The Japanese eat tons and tons of this fish, I'll not begrudge this guy of one. Ten, sure. Fishing tournaments have done more for fish conservation than your self canned sustainable??? albacore green trip will ever do.
So which bluefin populations are threatened and when did they become so? Is there any reason to not assume the Pacific bluefin will go on the list. Is sushi all tofu now?

Sportsman logic; "we kill a bunch of animals and buy stamps. So it's good for 'em." (you are probably right. Canning my own is not much different I guess. I just remember some group saying that albacore is more sustainable. or something)
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby jupiters_release » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 00:29:17

pstarr wrote:
Fishman wrote:As noted, most of the fish were released, I don't think the meat will go to waste. Most taxidermy mounts are fiberglass. They only need size and pictures. Almost all big fishing tournaments such as this one are all catch and release unless a record fish is caught or perhaps the largest for the tourney. If you want to cry over a fish stock, cry over the tuna cans at your local market.
I can (what little I eat) myself. From somewhat sustainable (????) albacore fisheries


I thought all tuna can swim here in less than a week off Japan? No concern for contamination? I felt a little sketchy eating dungeness today.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby careinke » Fri 09 Mar 2012, 05:23:06

jupiters_release wrote:I thought all tuna can swim here in less than a week off Japan? No concern for contamination? I felt a little sketchy eating dungeness today.


Dungeness crab is by far, the best crab ever.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 03:29:06

And how! I've been abstaining from all grass-fed beef and dairy since March of last year, and it's been driving me nuts. I finally caved in on half and half for coffee, but after a month of it I'm going off again indefinitely. I'm sure I already reached my lifetime recommended dose of isotopes. :-D <-glowing emoticon
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby arkwriter » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 10:03:10

Fishman wrote:Pstarr, as usual your facts, are well, not so much facts. The pacific bluefin is not listed as threatened, and the fish was by Wiki probably 30 - 40 years old max. The Japanese eat tons and tons of this fish, I'll not begrudge this guy of one. Ten, sure. Fishing tournaments have done more for fish conservation than your self canned sustainable??? albacore green trip will ever do.


All fish are feckin threatened: sports fishermen, industrial fishing and more importantly, pollution, are all having a dreadful effect, fact! Also, with 9 billion + of hungry humans either chomping away on Mother Natures' last morsal of flesh, or stomping and warring over her bones, the end for them and therefore the human race, is not far off!
We are pouring millions of tons of pollutants into the sea, newly industrialised countries cannot comprehend never mind cope whilst others just wring their hands and hope. :evil:
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 11:48:25

arkwriter wrote:
Fishman wrote:Pstarr, as usual your facts, are well, not so much facts. The pacific bluefin is not listed as threatened, and the fish was by Wiki probably 30 - 40 years old max. The Japanese eat tons and tons of this fish, I'll not begrudge this guy of one. Ten, sure. Fishing tournaments have done more for fish conservation than your self canned sustainable??? albacore green trip will ever do.


All fish are feckin threatened: sports fishermen, industrial fishing and more importantly, pollution, are all having a dreadful effect, fact! Also, with 9 billion + of hungry humans either chomping away on Mother Natures' last morsal of flesh, or stomping and warring over her bones, the end for them and therefore the human race, is not far off!
We are pouring millions of tons of pollutants into the sea, newly industrialised countries cannot comprehend never mind cope whilst others just wring their hands and hope. :evil:
sounds about right. Wild fish are like other livestock; we have chosen the obedient ones, chickens, that come to roost periodically. So the salmon return to rivers, the tuna migrate to the coast, haibut to the bays, the crabs come onshore to mate, molt, etc. And they are all relatively large and swim into our waiting nets.

Once we deplete these species there will still be great fish stocks in the ocean except they will be too small and too dispersed to harvest with a net gain in calories. The oceans will be ripe with zooplankton that we won't be able to catch. It's like the EROEI of fish is declining along with petroleum. Then we dieback and what is left (the anchovies, sardines, etc.) very quickly evolve, self-organize to fill empty niches once again into larger system--and voila! bigger new fish. without humans to annoy them.
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 14:00:08

jupiters_release wrote:And how! I've been abstaining from all grass-fed beef and dairy since March of last year, and it's been driving me nuts. I finally caved in on half and half for coffee, but after a month of it I'm going off again indefinitely. I'm sure I already reached my lifetime recommended dose of isotopes. :-D <-glowing emoticon



Have you thought that may be your distress caused by this can kill you much easier than a potential cancer from Fukushima particles in your food?
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Re: Angler's 738-pound Pacific bluefin tuna

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 19:33:00

Pretorian wrote:
jupiters_release wrote:And how! I've been abstaining from all grass-fed beef and dairy since March of last year, and it's been driving me nuts. I finally caved in on half and half for coffee, but after a month of it I'm going off again indefinitely. I'm sure I already reached my lifetime recommended dose of isotopes. :-D <-glowing emoticon



Have you thought that may be your distress caused by this can kill you much easier than a potential cancer from Fukushima particles in your food?


It has nothing to do with dying, it's a quality of life issue. I prefer not having any radiation emitting particles lodged in my vital organs is all. What you say is reminiscent of what they're telling the Japanese though, smile and be happy. Let's see how much you're smiling if a reactor explodes or melts down within several hundred miles upwind from you.

Have you sought any help for your psychological problems? Have you learned you have any problems yet? Not trying to be facetious here, just curious if you've made any progress yet, however small, as I rarely read this board anymore.
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Re: Peak Fish Documentary

Unread postby ralfy » Sun 24 Mar 2013, 09:22:41

"Overfished and under-protected: Oceans on the brink of catastrophic collapse"

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/22/world ... ?hpt=hp_c1
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