Exploring Hydrocarbon Depletion
careinke wrote:I would vote for a law that required a separate bike path be built alongside any new road construction or major road repair. Such a law would have numerous benefits, with a relatively small increase in work that was going to be done anyway.
AgentR11 wrote:Do I get to club the first person that uses my 25mph bike path for walking?
Loki wrote:Assholes come in all flavors.
Beery1 wrote:I own 5 bicycles (a touring bike and four cheap general purpose sport/thrasher bikes that I won't care about losing if bike theft becomes an issue), my wife and daughter own one bike each, and we have a Trail-a-Bike. So if/when the roads are blocked with people trying and failing to use their cars to get to wherever it's better if the shit really hits the fan, we'll be making a steady 10 miles per hour, which is better than the motorists will be getting. We can also haul about 8 bags or up to 200lbs of groceries or camping gear for the three of us. Motorists better be ready to haul that (or as much as they can) on their backs at 3mph max, once they figure out that no one's getting anywhere by car.
Beery1 wrote:Loki wrote:Assholes come in all flavors.
They do indeed. And the thing most cyclists don't know is that the road is actually safer for cyclists than the sidewalk. Sidewalk riding is actually between 2 and 12 times more dangerous - to the cyclist - than cycling on the road, because of how sidewalk riders interact with intersections. Here in Silver Spring, it's legal to ride on the sidewalk, but I never do it because I know how dangerous it is (and because pedestrians ought to be safe on the sidewalks). I believe it's also legal in Oregon (though maybe that law only applies to Portland - I don't recall the exact statute). Personally, I think it ought to be illegal everywhere, as it is in the UK.
careinke wrote:How about much wider shoulders on country roads?
AgentR11 wrote:A bike has a range of speeds where it is really good transportation; 12mph - 25mph, depending on slope, wind, and cargo; but outside of that it's a wabbly, slow, useless impediment to transportation purposes.
careinke wrote:So Beery1,
Using your logic, I should be able to use a golf cart or a self built electric cart on the main roads, in the main lanes? My golf cart, (if I really had one), goes just as fast and is more visible than a bike so no reason not to ride it on the main roads. Would you agree, if not why not?
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