THE Cold Fusion Thread pt 4 (merged)

[Cog]

They act like stupid people, scared of showing what they have , because probably they have something.

I'd be happy if they just showed me a picture of their E-Cat factory that is supposedly cranking out 1MW E-Cats night and day.

[Cog]

I guess I'll have to have the utility company turn the gas and electric back on. No SunCube for me.

[Schadenfreude]

137 Films

The Believers begins in March of 1989, when two respected chemists from the University of Utah stand in front of a wall of reporters; flashbulbs pop as the pair --- one shy, the other cracking jokes--- announce a startling claim: they have solved the world’s energy problems using seawater, batteries, and the mysterious glass contraption they hold proudly in their hands. “Cold Fusion” is born. Within days, Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann are on the cover of Time Magazine. But in three short months, their careers are in tatters, their reputations ruined, and Cold Fusion is synonymous with "bad science."

Twenty-two years later, despite mainstream science's continued disdain, professional and amateur scientists, a high school whiz kid, and a Hollywood-based internet DJ are confident that Cold Fusion can still save the world, and that we are closer than ever to the Holy Grail of civilization. They're the Believers.

Trailer at the link.

[vision-master]

It's called knowledge filtering...............

[Cog]

is there anybody left on this thread besides cut & paste bill?
The thread used to be fun...

We are following this fast breaking story. All points of view deserve to be heard on the matter.

[Ferretlover]

The Falls Church News page

The Peak Oil Crisis: Cold Fusion Update
By Tom Whipple, Wednesday, January 18 2012 03:41:06 PM

There have been enough developments in the cold fusion story during the last two weeks to warrant revisiting the subject. For those of you who came in late, cold fusion, also known as Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR), is a phenomenon in which hydrogen, under proper conditions, is combined with palladium or nickel to produce heat. If the reaction can be developed to the point at which it makes lots of heat safely, then the world will change forever as the ingredients for the process and the costs of the reactor appears to be very inexpensive. The process leaves behind no adverse products such as greenhouse gases, ionizing radiation, radioactive waste or even ash.
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It must be reiterated that while it seems likely that LENR reactions are a real phenomenon, it has yet to be proven that commercial products which can start replacing fossil fuels are only months away. We should have some answers to this question - one way or another -- before the year is out.
Tom Whipple is a retired government analyst and has been following the peak oil issue for several years.

Best point of view out there.

[yeahbut]

We should have some answers to this question - one way or another -- before the year is out.

Now why does that sound so familiar? Oh yeah. It's what we were told last year.

[Schadenfreude]

JET ENERGY Successfully Scores its SECOND COLD FUSION/LANR OPEN DEMONSTRATION AT MIT During the First IAP Short Course on Cold Fusion

January 30-31, 2012 - Cambridge, MA. - As part of the IAP Course on COLD FUSION at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Mitchell Swartz, JET Energy, and Prof. Peter Hagelstein demonstrated cold fusion openly for scientists and engineers. The demonstration was a two day part of the detailed, yet overview, seven day course run by Prof. Hagelstein and Dr. Swartz, and followed the first open demonstrations of cold fusion at MIT in 2003. This JET Energy NANOR(TM) demonstrated a significant energy gain greater than 10, much larger than the previous open demonstration. This exhibition is also remarkable because it confirmed the role of the nanoengineered lattice in enabling the CF/LANR activity. It followed Prof. Hagelstein sharing his breakthrough explanatory theory of cold fusion during the first 5 days. The NANOR technology of JET Energy may have already begun to shatter a few preconceived notions of skeptics and cold fusioneers.

Cambridge, MA - The IAP Short Course (7 days) on Cold Fusion and Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions has meticulously developed the salient point that skeptics of cold fusion were wrong, and that scientific theories do exist for understanding the difficult to achieve reactions. Here, on day 3, Prof. Hagelstein demonstrates experimental results proving the role of deuteron flux in PdD hydrides resulting in excess heat accompanied by commensurate de novo helium-4 production, and a visiting engineer from Canada makes a contributory point.

[Ferretlover]

Cold Fusion Openly Demonstrated At MIT – Again

February 1, 2012
Cold Fusion Times is reporting that Dr Mitchell Swartz has performed an open demo for the students of Professor Hagelstein’s short course in cold fusion at MIT. With a reported gain of 10, this is yet another link in the chain destined to pull cold fusion from the junk-science mud. It appears that MIT has given itself a chance of redemption even if it cannot give back the lives of the two men who started it all.
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None of this goes away even if the eCat does but who could blame an inventor for not wanting to play by the rules set by these people? Why would a businessman give the men with the levers the power to dictate image and timescales? Look at what they have done. Look at the battle guys like Hagelstein and Swartz have fought for years. And still, most of the scientific community thinks cf researchers are fruit cakes.

There is a sense that things are changing and maybe soon Rossi (or Defkalion) will make heroes of them all. If not, I think they will do it for themselves. Eventually. Another dragon is slayed. They are falling and cf is rising.

[Ferretlover]

Prof. Peter L. Hagelstein, MIT Associate Professor of Electrical Engineering

Biographical Background

Professor Peter L. Hagelstein is a principal investigator in the Research Laboratory of Electronics (RLE) at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). He received the B.S. and the M.S. in 1976, and the Ph.D. in electrical engineering in 1981, from MIT. He was a staff member of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory from 1981 to 1985 before joining the MIT faculty in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 1986.

Professor Hagelstein's early work focused on EUV and soft X-ray lasers, relativistic atomic structure and electron collisional physics, ionic autoionization and dielectronic recombination processes, plasma population kinetics, radiation transport, and large scale physics simulation. He received the Ernest Orlando Lawrence Award in 1984 for his innovation and creativity in X-ray laser physics.

His recent efforts have included the invention of semiconductor technology that could allow efficient, affordable production of electricity from a variety of energy sources, as well as continuing investigations of low-energy nuclear reactions. Professor Hagelstein is the co-author of a new textbook, "Introductory Applied Quantum and Statistical Mechanics," and chaired the Tenth International Conference on Cold Fusion in 2003.

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[kublikhan]

Hey! You lot out there! Yes, you with the money. You who can choose war. You who can enslave your own. You who manipulate nations, who fear losing control, who choose power over change, who can change the world – look over here. It’s under your bloody noses. You just need to look!

None of this goes away even if the eCat does but who could blame an inventor for not wanting to play by the rules set by these people? Why would a businessman give the men with the levers the power to dictate image and timescales? Look at what they have done. Look at the battle guys like Hagelstein and Swartz have fought for years. And still, most of the scientific community thinks cf researchers are fruit cakes.

There is a sense that things are changing and maybe soon Rossi (or Defkalion) will make heroes of them all. If not, I think they will do it for themselves. Eventually. Another dragon is slayed. They are falling and cf is rising.

This is the moment that either cold fusion falls...or COLD FUSION RISES!

Carl, why do you keep linking to such sketchy "news reporting" sites? I really can't take a site seriously if half the article is railing at the powers that be for locking up free energy technology in the Rockefeller storage vaults.

[Schadenfreude]

JET ENERGY Successfully Scores its SECOND COLD FUSION/LANR OPEN DEMONSTRATION AT MIT During the First IAP Short Course on Cold Fusion

January 30-31, 2012 - Cambridge, MA. - As part of the IAP Course on COLD FUSION at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Mitchell Swartz, JET Energy, and Prof. Peter Hagelstein demonstrated cold fusion openly for scientists and engineers. The demonstration was a two day part of the detailed, yet overview, seven day course run by Prof. Hagelstein and Dr. Swartz, and followed the first open demonstrations of cold fusion at MIT in 2003. This JET Energy NANOR(TM) demonstrated a significant energy gain greater than 10, much larger than the previous open demonstration. This exhibition is also remarkable because it confirmed the role of the nanoengineered lattice in enabling the CF/LANR activity. It followed Prof. Hagelstein sharing his breakthrough explanatory theory of cold fusion during the first 5 days. The NANOR technology of JET Energy may have already begun to shatter a few preconceived notions of skeptics and cold fusioneers.

Cambridge, MA - The IAP Short Course (7 days) on Cold Fusion and Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions has meticulously developed the salient point that skeptics of cold fusion were wrong, and that scientific theories do exist for understanding the difficult to achieve reactions. Here, on day 3, Prof. Hagelstein demonstrates experimental results proving the role of deuteron flux in PdD hydrides resulting in excess heat accompanied by commensurate de novo helium-4 production, and a visiting engineer from Canada makes a contributory point.

[Ferretlover]

Prof. Peter L. Hagelstein, MIT Associate Professor of Electrical Engineering

Biographical Background
Professor Peter L. Hagelstein is a principal investigator in the Research Laboratory of Electronics (RLE) at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). He received the B.S. and the M.S. in 1976, and the Ph.D. in electrical engineering in 1981, from MIT. He was a staff member of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory from 1981 to 1985 before joining the MIT faculty in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 1986.

Professor Hagelstein's early work focused on EUV and soft X-ray lasers, relativistic atomic structure and electron collisional physics, ionic autoionization and dielectronic recombination processes, plasma population kinetics, radiation transport, and large scale physics simulation. He received the Ernest Orlando Lawrence Award in 1984 for his innovation and creativity in X-ray laser physics.

His recent efforts have included the invention of semiconductor technology that could allow efficient, affordable production of electricity from a variety of energy sources, as well as continuing investigations of low-energy nuclear reactions. Professor Hagelstein is the co-author of a new textbook, "Introductory Applied Quantum and Statistical Mechanics," and chaired the Tenth International Conference on Cold Fusion in 2003.

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[Schadenfreude]

We all just follow the news here. Is that so hard to understand?

[Pops]

With that I'm going to lock this topic until you can convince a mod it's worth reopening.