The Drought Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

[PrestonSturges]

Well much of the American west and midwest has no snow pack at all after record snowfall last year, so things could get grim.

At the local level, I'm not personally seeing any of the neighbors putting in gardens, despite the occasional newspaper article.

[M_B_S]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-1 ... urges.html

Balkan Drought Drains Hydro Plants, Raises Danger of BlackoutsTourists visiting the Macedonian mountain resort of Mavrovo this winter have been able to see the 19th-century St. Nicholas chapel for the first time in 50 years. Usually submerged in a reservoir, it stands once again on dry land as the worst drought in four decades lays bare the vulnerability of the Balkan energy grid.
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The Sahara desert jumps over the meditaranien sea and ones fertile lands in southern europe will dry out.

Without electric hydro power humans can survive but without food and water .....no chance!

Climate change will bring humans to justice.

M_B_S

[M_B_S]

USA/Texas: NO hay for the animals to feed.

Having horses these days comes at a high price. The ongoing drought plaguing Central Texas has driven up not only the price of hay, but also the supply.

Horse owner Marjorie Granillo has definitely felt the burden of the shortage.

"Last year, we were paying $45 for nice Coastal big round bales, with $10 delivery. This year, these two have cost me $290,” she said. "We used to have a really good grower who grew our round bales, but of course, with the drought, he's not able to supply us anymore."

http://austin.ynn.com/content/top_stori ... hay-supply
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Wow 600% profit

Oh, thats nice how can big wallstreet jump in the hay market and make money with with hot air ?


It is so beautiful as a owner of a mega big coal fired power plant i can make more big droughts and invest my profit in hay balls and food papers so i make more money .....

M_B_S
http://www.dairyherd.com/dairy-news/Dro ... 78608.html

For all but the southern states, it was another mild weather week as drought conditions continued across much of the west, north and east. A broad expansion of dry conditions is depicted over much of the West, from Idaho to Colorado to California. Improvements are seen in Texas and some nearby states as a system late in the week brought some heavy precipitation over a two-day period.

[Fishman]

Climate change will bring humans to justice

So why is it kicking that nice socialist asp first? Perhaps Gia hates liberals? Seems climate change is your prefered faith MBS? OOO, OOO I get it "There is no god but Climate Change, and Gore is its prophet"

[jedrider]

The Sahara desert jumps over the meditaranien sea and ones fertile lands in southern europe will dry out.

Without electric hydro power humans can survive but without food and water .....no chance!

Climate change will bring humans to justice.

M_B_S

I always wonder what a country like France will do when it can no longer cool the spent fuel in it's nuclear reactors becuase of inadequate river flows, and perhaps, even what the U.S. will do if a similar situation develops. Another way out for humans down the tubes!

[dolanbaker]

As many of the French nuclear plants are on the coast, I don't see this as an issue, especially as AGW'ers believe that sea levels will rise!

[meemoe_uk]

>The Sahara desert jumps over the meditaranien sea and ones fertile lands in southern europe will dry out....Climate change will bring humans to justice.
I doubt it.
What does MBS stand for Massive_BS ?

By the solar model, the world is predicted to have drier than average weather for 2012, and perhaps abit in 2013. This is due to the emerging solar activity, which warms the atmosphere. The atmosphere's capacity to hold and retain water increases, therefore there's less rain while the atmosphere loads up to its new capacity. By 2015, solarCycle24 will weaken, cooling the atmos, and lessen the atmosphere's capacity to hold water. This will cause the atmosphere to unload excess water, and we'll have a repeat of ' 2005 - record year of floods and tornados ' - which at the time, AGWers blamed on man made global warming, but actually was due to the weakening of SolarCycle23.
In short,
on the upslope of a solar cycle, the world's weather is dryer.
on the downslope of a solar cycle, the world's weather is wetter.

I haven't bothered to check if MBS's spamming of this forum with drought threads ( which are outside the designated drought thread ) are a reflection of actual increased droughts in the world ( it could be just anothe brainless AGWer going off on a random doom spasm ), but if it is, its just another confirmation of the solar cycle controling the variation in Earth's climate.

[dorlomin]

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Heya pal. You'e not gotten back to me on this matter yet.

[dohboi]

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/2011precipitationmap.jpg

[M_B_S]

Bad news are not allways good news:


Drought continues in EnglandPublished: Jan. 14, 2012 at 11:15 AM




LONDON, Jan. 14 (UPI) -- Much of England remains under the threat of drought with bans looming on washing cars, watering gardens and filling swimming pools, officials said.
The Environment Agency said that if the dry weather continues it could affect river navigation and force water restrictions on farmers, The Daily Telegraph reported. The area involved includes parts of the Midlands, East Anglia and southeastern England.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2012/01 ... z1jYHTOAFt
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Uupps what is that? A winter drought in England?!

Something is going wrong with our climate wrong very wrong!

M_B_S

[M_B_S]

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle-new ... 99118.html

Argentine corn and soy farms will suffer from hot weather and scant rains for the rest of this week, forecasters said on Tuesday, increasing worries that crop losses will eat into global supplies.

Argentina, which supplies about 20 percent of the world's corn exports and 12 percent of its soybeans, has been pounded for weeks by an unrelenting Southern Hemisphere summer sun....

Paraguay, the world's fourth-biggest soybean exporter, [u]declared an emergency on Tuesday, allowing the government to give special drought relief to farmers for a period of 90 days.[/u]
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http://en.mercopress.com/2012/01/18/dro ... s-on-sight

Drought emergency in central Argentina and Paraguay but no sufficient rains on sight
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So like 2011 ends the year 2012 begins with epic droughts.The worldwide drought catastophe continues and eat its way into the worlds corn baskets.

M_B_S

[M_B_S]

Drought-stricken area stretches across U.S.

http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/2 ... 1/1002/rss

The disastrous Southern drought, which led to $10 billion in crop and agricultural losses in 2011, is forecast to continue through at least the next three months, government scientists report.

The drought is also forecast to worsen and expand across the water-sensitive Western U.S...
According to the most recent Drought Monitor, a weekly federal government report, drought is either in place or forecast to develop in a solid 2,500-mile stripe across the southern tier of the U.S., all the way from California to Virginia, literally coast to coast.
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Oh when this drought is going on it is better for US farmers to grow camels and not cattle.

http://www.farmradio.org/english/radio- ... ipt_en.asp

Climate change is going on prepare for the worst.

James Lovelock tells us the truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7_dDWRw ... re=related
M_B_S

[Revi]

I am reading Fred Pearce's With Speed and Violence and am beginning to understand how bad it is.

We are in real trouble. These droughts are just the beginning of the problems.

[M_B_S]

Mexico hit by reports of Indian famine, rumors of suicides

The aid effort sprang up during the weekend after a video was posted on social media sites showing council secretary Ramon Gardea of Carichi, a town in northern Chihuahua's Tarahumara Mountains, saying that 50 Indians "threw themselves into valleys" after their crops failed because of severe cold and the worst drought in at least 70 years.

http://www.statesman.com/news/world/mex ... =ynews_rss
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The indians are jumping.. Wallstreet banksters not.

Thats the difference....

Climate change? Drought? Famine? Lets make more money!

M_B_S

[AgentR11]

I really wish I had words to describe this drought thing where we are. The best descriptor, also the saddest, is the vast number of dead trees; we won't really know till late this coming spring, but it feels like a good 1 in 5, maybe more, just dead. In a densely forested area; you can see the oaks that lost their leaves normally, as well as the one's that haven't dropped their leaves this winter; along with the ones that just died in the summer with dried up crunchy leaves and broken branches. You drive by a reservoir, and its extremely low, but the ground has been wet now for a couple months; but its a funny wet.

It rains 4", and there is some run off, but then you'd normally expect the ground to remain a sloppy near-quicksand goopy for ages. Two days later, its firm. Damp, but firm. The soil is just *SO* thirsty. If we have a dry summer again, the hill country grassland-plains'ish ecology is going to seriously push East.

[dohboi]

That certainly sounds like a prescription for major forest fires come summer. Are you in a forested area yourself? Are you taking any precautions?

Meanwhile, the drought monitor shows some breakup of the huge splotch of angry red "exceptional drought" that once dominated most of TX, but the letter L for long-term drought now dominates most of that state as well as most of Louisiana, OK, NM and AZ, as well as the SE quarter or so of CO.

And the drying of the west now covers nearly everything to the south and west of a wavy line from the Idaho-Canada border to NO, and then SE of a line from NO to the Chesapeake. We've had dustings of snow on and off here in MN, but most of the state and good portions of the surrounding region are unusually dry or in drought.

I can't help but notice that many of the hardest hit areas are also some of the most conservative areas politically and religiously. Is this going to shake people's faith? It seems like a new and grim re-definition of "red state."

[dohboi]

Meanwhile, no rest for the weary:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2012-019

NASA Sees Repeating La Niña Hitting its Peak

La Niña, "the diva of drought," is peaking, increasing the odds that the Pacific Northwest will have more stormy weather this winter and spring, while the southwestern and southern United States will be dry.

[M_B_S]

BUENOS AIRES, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Drought conditions are worsening in Latin America, especially Argentina and Paraguay, and may become a flash point for political and rural unrest, latest data and sector analysis said.

Argentina supplies about 20 percent of the world's demand for corn and 12 percent of soybeans. But revised estimates of crop damage by drought pushed international prices for both corn and soybeans.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy ... z1k0OMvWr5
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The epic drought is far from over. You can stick your head in the sand but climate change will hit you too.

M_B_S

[dohboi]

http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2012/01/graph-of-day-global-distribution-of.html

[AgentR11]

I really do dislike maps like those; they can be so very misleading. Taking my little section of the world, it gives the impression of water scarcity pushing Eastward; but that is *not* what is happening. Rather, the map simply illustrates the edge of the Brazos river basin. Everything in that basin and East has water; even in our current drought, the reservoirs are now back up to near pool, and even at its max impact, the Brazos was simply low.

However...

To the West of the Brazos; the rivers and creeks are intermittent; seeing them go dry or extremely low is not exactly a surprising event, some of them even carrying names indicating such, eg "Dry Frio", basically an empty rockbed that pretends to be a river every once in a while. Its just the natural boundary of that zone. What *HAS* changed is the number of people living there. Austin and San Antonio and the corridor between them have experienced massive human growth in the past couple decades; so human demand for water has greatly increased. Demand for water rising, in a very dry part of the world, during a drought... Unwise. Politically it cracks me up; all the "greenies" choosing to live, where their very existence creates the maximum possible negative environmental impact. But hey, they recycle their aluminum cans.