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When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 2(merged)

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Re: The post peak mass death and slaughter scenario......:(

Unread postby Anvil » Mon 26 Dec 2011, 15:33:52

The collapse is already here. Its just hidden very well by the media controlled by big government to a man sense time began. It amazes me just how well the media/gov censors things. Here it Australia the media has been very effective in censoring front runner Ron Paul and his liberty speak in there coverage of the USA president. People think Australia is the most free country in the world but more and more i see examples of these cover ups and shut downs of freedom with increased regulations and bureaucratic organisation. Its goten worse lately with the Labour/green gov in power taxes going up spending sky high.

Australian is being squeezed by a form of mind control oppression and the only freedom that is possible is the freedom that you make for your self.
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Re: The post peak mass death and slaughter scenario......:(

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 26 Dec 2011, 15:43:11

Every September we are solemnly reminded that our media is owned.
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Re: The post peak mass death and slaughter scenario......:(

Unread postby ObiWan » Mon 26 Dec 2011, 15:55:29

Anvil wrote:The collapse is already here. Its just hidden very well by the media controlled by big government to a man sense time began.


Oh please. Do you seriously think that when this website started, and 50% of the people voting in this thread thought that there would be a mass death and slaughter scenario by 2010, they were REALLY thinking about BAU growth, shoppers in the malls, tens of millions of new car sales and 90%+ of the population going to work 5 days a week, being paid in paper currencies, and so on and so forth? Do you REALLY think anyone defined that as a CRASH when this thread started? Is that why they used the words "peak mass death and slaughter", as codewords for Merry Christmas shopping and lets go gather up another car for the daughter to take to college?

Anvil wrote: It amazes me just how well the media/gov censors things.


Australia might be crashing, but until the crash gets rid of the Xmas traffic jam I got caught in last Friday, I have news, censorship isn't the issue, reality is.

Anvil wrote:Australian is being squeezed by a form of mind control oppression and the only freedom that is possible is the freedom that you make for your self.


I recommend asking the Queen to take the joint back over if you can't run it yourselves. I'm sure Britain could use nice colony to exploit right about now.
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When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 13:10:46

Based on your view of things.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 13:15:37

Oh, when the Boomers start hitting 60+ you youngsters will start seeing a mass dieoff. I wonder if the younger peeps will start seeing their generation cacking off in their 50's in another 10 years.....?
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby dsula » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 14:15:09

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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 14:24:41

Let's see, I'll be over 110 by then...... :lol:
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby pstarr » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 15:43:53

This is what is happening in the world today, as posted at PO.com

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and this;

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I am sorry folks but the dieoff has begun. too late to GYST :(
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 15:49:26

Good informative post pstarr.......
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby Roryrules » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 15:49:52

It won't, at least, not in my lifetime.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 15:51:49

Heh, every option has one vote currently except for 2050
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 16:03:38

Roryrules wrote:It won't, at least, not in my lifetime.


BINGO - there's a mass dieoff with every aging generation. Your turn will come.....

Where others have left

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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby BobInget » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 18:20:39

<<Right now Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya are experiencing the worst drought conditions that they have seen in 60 years. Tens of thousands of African families have abandoned their homes as they desperately search for food and water. Hundreds of thousands of farm animals have died because of the drought. Considering the fact that approximately two-thirds of the people living in the region "make their living by raising goats, sheep, cattle and camels", the word "catastrophic" just is not sufficient to describe what is happening. Every single day, thousands more head to Dadaab, the biggest refugee camp in the world. Dadaab was originally designed to hold 90,000 people, but now over 360,000 precious people are camped there. In addition, approximately 30,000 desperately hungry people are standing outside the fences waiting to be admitted. It is projected that by the end of the year there will be over a half million people living in Dadaab. Sadly, this is just the beginning. According to the United Nations, there are already 10 million people in the region that are facing severe food shortages, and many fear that if the drought continues we could actually see mass starvation in Africa in 2012.>>

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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby spot5050 » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 19:40:03

2015. When peak oil happens. Or has it happened already?
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby pstarr » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 19:54:39

spot5050 wrote:2015. When peak oil happens. Or has it happened already?

it depends on your metric. peak light-sweet crude occurred in 2005. Since then we have dug deeper, refined more, relabeled organic compounds as oil, upgraded crap, and otherwise kicked the ball a few years down the road. So yeah. peak is now.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby seenmostofit » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 20:24:59

mmasters wrote:Based on your view of things.


Could you define "die off" a little better? Some people might say that starvation in Africa is die off already in action, others are looking for a solid 90% reduction of the entire human population. And does this view have to be peak oil based? As pstarr has mentioned, the metrics of what constitutes peak oil (and the consequences) are constantly being rewritten.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby spot5050 » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 20:45:39

pstarr wrote:
spot5050 wrote:2015. When peak oil happens. Or has it happened already?

it depends on your metric. peak light-sweet crude occurred in 2005. Since then we have dug deeper, refined more, relabeled organic compounds as oil, upgraded crap, and otherwise kicked the ball a few years down the road. So yeah. peak is now.


Got any stats pstarr? Or charts preferably.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 20:50:10

After all the fat has been trimmed. Most of what we use currently could be defined as fat.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 21:19:00

seenmostofit wrote:
mmasters wrote:Based on your view of things.


Could you define "die off" a little better? Some people might say that starvation in Africa is die off already in action, others are looking for a solid 90% reduction of the entire human population. And does this view have to be peak oil based? As pstarr has mentioned, the metrics of what constitutes peak oil (and the consequences) are constantly being rewritten.

I suppose you could say when the third world goes the route of africa (except there wont be any foreign aid like africa currently has from first world countries because they wont exist anymore) or when developed countries start experiencing a reduction in population due to starvation, disease, etc...
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin?

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 25 Apr 2012, 21:20:05

SeaGypsy wrote:After all the fat has been trimmed. Most of what we use currently could be defined as fat.

So at what point do you think the fat will have been trimmed off? 2050?
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