pstarr wrote:seahorse3 wrote:I've been waiting for the transition to NG vehicles for a long time, but it's just not happening, much to my demise of thinking and I'm sure Boone Pickens. I couldn't buy a NG vehicle yet, bc there would be nowhere to fill it up. How many NG cars in Israel right now? That's a serious question. They have no oil, import it all, and are surrounded by hostile neighbors. So, it would seem they would have a sense of urgency to go all out on NG vehicles with these new discoveries. So, practically, where are they on the move to NG vehicles in their military and civilian economy?
I've had this discussion here for years and am continually reminded of Montequest's oft-repeated assertion that "solutions in isolation" are don't really amount to much. While it is true that NG-vehicle conversion/production is pretty trivial, delivering NG to those vehicles is another entirely different challenge. One that has never been undertaken before. (To date the few NG filling stations in urban centers are just adjuncts to existing hot water/heating/electrical generation network.)
To make a change over to NG, and replace liquid petroleum, is prohibitively expensive because it requires a complete distribution and delivery system to places where NG has never gone. Farms, military installations, interstate highways, mines, timberlands would all have to be connected or the entire system will not be used.
No idea how old you are. I agree with most of your post, but absolutely wrong on "One that has never been undertaken before" Way back in the 1970s where I lived in an unlikely spot in the UK and North Sea gas was starting to be piped ashore a small village gas station bought and installed a natural gas filling pump in the hopes of cornering the local market for autos converted to run on natural gas. Forty-odd years ago. I reckon they are still waiting.
So, yes, you are right - not going to happen. All the food to your supermarket gets delivered using diesel. Some of the folks commuting may use diesel - most use petrol (UK) gasoline (US) or benzine (where I live).