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Re: THE Yemen Thread (merged)

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Sat 29 Oct 2011, 08:44:36

Yemen’s power cuts
Independent Online / October 29 2011


Amal Ibrahim, a housewife living in the Yemeni capital Sana'a, has to contend with power cuts that have become a daily occurrence since the protests and consequent political crisis began in the Arabian Peninsula country earlier this year.

“I am unable to do my household chores such as cooking and washing as an electricity outage can last for 22 hours a day,” she told dpa.

“This reminds me of the hard life in the early 1980s when housewives used to do housework manually for there were no electric appliances,” Ibrahim adds. ...

... “I miss those days when electricity used to be cut off for only four to five hours a day,” says Mohammed Abdullah, who runs a furniture workshop in Sana'a.

Due to the frequent power blackouts, Mohammed says he cannot meet orders from his customers on time.

“I have bought an electricity generator so that I can do my job,” he says. But he is facing another problem: a shortage of diesel fuel necessary for operating his generator.

“Diesel is not available in Sana'a. I have to go outside the capital to get it at prices, which are at least twice as high as before,” he says.

Work at the International Bank of Yemen in Sana'a has also been negatively affected by the lack of electricity, according to employee Basim al-Bahri.

“Worse, we sometimes run out of diesel fuel for generators used by the bank,” he adds. ...

... Despite the power outages, people in Sana'a notice that on certain occasions, electricity is always available.

This was the case on September 23 when the Yemeni president returned to the country from Saudi Arabia where he had stayed for almost four months recovering from injuries sustained in an attack on the presidential palace

Likewise, there are no power cuts when the president gives a televised speech.

“Only on such occasions, we can lead a normal life,” says al-Bahri. ...

Where "normal life" is defined as "life with quasi-magical powers derived from from fossil fuel."
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Yemen fuel crisis ignites street riots

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 12 Aug 2014, 13:14:12

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/yemen ... -393941730

Hundreds of angry rioters expressed their frustration over the Yemeni government’s decision to increase the prices of petroleum last week by blocking off main roads and burning tires in the streets of the capital.

The price of fuel nearly doubled overnight from 2500 to 4000 Yemeni riyals ($11.6 to $18.6) for 20 liters ($2.19/gal to $3.51/gal), while the price of diesel increased to 3900 Yemeni riyals from its previous price of 2000.

... Economic experts in the past have warned that social unrest could ignite if the government decides to raise the fuel and diesel prices, which will concurrently increase the prices of basic food supplies such as water, meat, fruits, vegetables and spices.


also http://fortune.com/2014/08/11/why-cheap ... ses-riots/

Egypt security forces remain on alert as the government cut subsidies and warily raises gas prices in hopes of reviving an economy battered by more than three years of political turmoil.
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Re: Yemen fuel crisis ignites street riots

Unread postby Paulo1 » Wed 13 Aug 2014, 09:44:29

These are both good examples of 'reaching limits'. Of course this will unfold first in countries that exist on the margins and where any change for the worse pushes too many over the edge into anger and frustration.

I wonder why so many NA police departments are arming up with military gear?

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Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 13:28:22

Another one bites the dust ...

Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleea ... 52371.html
Months of political upheaval in Yemen have damaged an economy that was already struggling.

The UN has warned the country could collapse if the new government is not operational soon. There is concern that essential services such as health, electricity, and water may come to a halt by the end of the year.


Yemen Population (2014) = 24.4 million
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby GHung » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 14:06:31

Look familiar?
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Yemen's population has increased six-fold since 1950. Literacy rate is around 50%. Almost equally divided Sunni/Shia (Sunni have an edge). "Described as a kleptocracy".
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 14:42:38

GHung wrote:Yemen's population has increased six-fold since 1950. Literacy rate is around 50%. Almost equally divided Sunni/Shia (Sunni have an edge). "Described as a kleptocracy".

Too busy chewing 'khat'!
With its streams and natural aquifers shallower every day, Sana’a itself risks becoming the first capital in the world to run out of a viable water supply. Sana’a, could run dry in 5-10 years. The water table in the city has dropped far beyond sustainable levels, El Shami said, because of an exploding population, lack of water resource management and, most of all, unregulated drilling. Where Sana’a’s water table was 30 meters below the surface in the 1970s, he said, it has now dropped to 1,200 meters in some areas.

The water supply in this largely arid country has been the source of decades-long ethnic conflicts, particularly among nomadic groups. In the northern governorate of Al-Jawf, a blood feud between two prominent local groups has continued unabated for nearly three decades, largely a result of the contested placement of a well on their territorial border.

Abdulwali El Jilani, a water specialist in Sana’a with the Community Livelihood Project, a programme to improve water access funded by the US Agency for International Development (USAID), warned that as water supply diminishes, tensions will only rise: “Water is and will be the reason for powerful conflicts in the future.”

With little being done to harness rainfall in the country, farmers are drilling deeper than ever for water - without any government regulation. Agriculture uses around 90% of the country's water resources - with around half of that being used to cultivate the herbal stimulant khat.

“In 10 years’ time, we will have only surgical solutions left,” Madieh said. “It will be very painful to the Yemeni people. They will have to make choices about survival, because water is life and water is survival.”

http://www.irinnews.org/report/96093/ye ... ter-crisis

http://www.american.edu/cas/economics/e ... _glass.pdf
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 14:57:17

How Yemen Chewed Itself Dry
approximately 75 percent of the government’s revenue is derived from rapidly depleting oil reserves, and the World Bank predicts that oil will stop generating income for the Yemeni government by 2017.
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For now, the government subsidizes diesel -- the main fuel used to extract groundwater -- which accounts for 80 percent of the cost of qat cultivation. The low cost of extraction gives farmers little reason to switch to other crops or use sustainable farming practices.
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 15:19:29

They are well and truly buggered.

Not enough oil to expect help from the West ...
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... Addiction to qat (khat) is similar to an addiction to cocaine – it is difficult to give up once an individual has started using the drug. Most Yemeni men and some women chew the leaves of this plant every day for its narcotic effect. It is a way of life in Yemen. Qat chewing starts after lunch, the main meal of the day, and continues for the rest of the day. It is a highly social event – families and friends gather in private homes, each bringing their own qat.

Although the government has tried to limit the growth of qat, to preserve water – no one is listening. Farmers are unwilling to give up this crop because it is often their only source of income, and the majority of the population is addicted to this drug. “The increase in qat cultivation is having a huge impact on the groundwater (stock),” said Noori Gamal, senior hydro-geologist at the Ministry of Water and Environment. According to a news report by McGrath (2009), agriculture accounts for about 90 percent of Yemen’s groundwater consumption, and at least 30 percent of this is used just for growing qat. http://www.american.edu/cas/economics/e ... _glass.pdf


... Multiple studies have demonstrated that rats will perform reinforced behaviors at the exclusion of all other behaviors. Experiments have shown rats to forgo food to the point of starvation in order to work for brain stimulation or intravenous cocaine when both food and stimulation are offered concurrently for a limited time each day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_stimulation_reward
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby westexas » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 16:22:54

Yemen became a net oil importer in 2013 (EIA data).
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 16:52:39

If we needed any more proof that you need to invest your money when you have it into infrastructure so you dont need as much money to survive when you dont.
Nations and individuals are no different.
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 16:58:20

I guess Yemen will join Somalia in the pirate business. One more minefield to dodge on the trip out of the Gulf.
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 17:10:15

Shaved Monkey wrote:If we needed any more proof that you need to invest your money when you have it into infrastructure so you dont need as much money to survive when you dont. Nations and individuals are no different.


Yemen is addicted to khat The West is addicted to oil.

Yemen squandered their water. We've squandering our climate.

But, like rats, we keep pressing the lever for more stimulation. That frontal cortex of our's isn't helping much.
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 18:13:56

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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 18:25:00

U.S. Army Yemen Smart Book
https://publicintelligence.net/u-s-army ... mart-book/
The Smart Book contains information designed to enhance the Soldier’s knowledge of Yemen, including history, politics, country data and statistics, and the military operational environment. The Smart Book concludes with an overview of the culture of Yemen including religion, identity, behavior, communication and negotiation techniques, an overview of ethnic groups, a regional breakdown outlining each province, a language guide, and cultural proverbs
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 18:37:51

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the obama administration's long war on terror in Yemen. The US drone strikes have killed hundreds and devastated parts of Yemen.

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We've been blowing things up in Yemen for years, and have now screwed things up about as bad as we did blowing things up in Libya.

Who knows, maybe obama's two new wars in Syria and Iraq will turn out better... Yemen didn't turn out so great, but We've got years ahead of blowing things up in Iraq and Syria to look forward to.....maybe this time obama's drone strikes will convince them to embrace democracy and freedom!
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 19:18:31

Plantagenet wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned the obama administration's long war on terror in Yemen.

Plant, you old rascal. You're a master of false syllogism, exaggeration, distortion, misdirection, and false inferences, and you just can't help yourself when it comes to rewriting history...

In November 2002, six Yemenis suspected of being members of al Qaeda were blown up in their car in the province of Marib by a Hellfire missile attack from an unmanned CIA RQ-1 Predator aircraft. Among the dead was Abu Ali al-Harithi.[7]

Al-Harithi was traveling with Kamal Derwish (Ahmed Hijazi), a US citizen, and Derwish's killing was the first known case of the U.S. government killing a U.S. citizen during the "War on Terror

The CIA ramped up secret drone strikes in Pakistan under President George W. Bush in 2008.


But you never answered my earlier question...

Did your father beat you as a child??? Or was it abuse???
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby GHung » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 19:43:11

@vox_mundi - Right on. I could tell you a lot about US involvement going back to Reagan, but I would have to zapp you. We've been stirring that hornets nest since it was North/South Yemen. They loved to chase us around the Red Sea and Gulf of Oman in their little gun boats. They would hurl insults; we would expose our (ugly American) derrieres.

Plant is the consumate blamer. It's all he knows. He's helping to pay for this mess, but I doubt he's objected in person.
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Re: Yemen economy 'on verge of collapse'

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 18 Nov 2014, 19:54:14

GHung - It probably goes back to Roosevelt or T.E.Lawrence.

I don't think we could have screwed up that region any worst if we had tried on purpose.

Yea, I'm familiar with the SOP during Gulf War I
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