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Re: Sweltering Heat Sweeps Across Russia

Unread postby dolanbaker » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:48:02

Cog wrote:
Cid_Yama wrote:Give it up RocDoc. They can read it for themselves now. In full.

Being a good shill you really shouldn't direct others to research that actually supports the opposing position.

Oh, that's right, there isn't any legitimate research out there that supports your position.


Why is everyone that doesn't agree with your conclusions a shill? You seem to use that word a lot for whatever doom you want to spin but never back it up with hard data. If there is anyone who is shilling its you.

The real problem is that there are a few posters here who are so sold on the idea that (man made) rising CO2 levels is the prime mover in climate change that they see all other viewpoints as heresy and simply refuse to even acknowledge the poster has a legitimate point!

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Re: Sweltering Heat Sweeps Across Russia

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 19:39:42

Heresy is generally associated with religion. But our understanding of AGW is backed up by over a hundred years of science, and supported by every established scientific body that has looked at it.

It is the denialists that have a religion-like need to cling to their precious-but-specious positions faithfully, no matter what the actual science says.

I, for one, would be more than happy to learn that AGW had been actually proven not to exist, that there was some flaw in thinking that somehow thousands of scientists had overlooked.

I haven't see any such argument convincingly made here or elsewhere, and those who repeatedly claim to make them are repeatedly shown to be talking out of their @sses.

So go ahead and cling to your faith that we can't possibly do anything that would affect the climate of the planet, and go ahead and consider the solid science that says otherwise to be heretical.

I would just prefer that you choose some other forum to spew such idiocies.
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Re: Sweltering Heat Sweeps Across Russia

Unread postby americandream » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 20:49:40

Cog wrote:
Cid_Yama wrote:Give it up RocDoc. They can read it for themselves now. In full.

Being a good shill you really shouldn't direct others to research that actually supports the opposing position.

Oh, that's right, there isn't any legitimate research out there that supports your position.


Why is everyone that doesn't agree with your conclusions a shill? You seem to use that word a lot for whatever doom you want to spin but never back it up with hard data. If there is anyone who is shilling its you.


So why is it that everyone who disagrees with the Tea Party is branded a communist?
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Re: Sweltering Heat Sweeps Across Russia

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 20 Aug 2011, 00:45:08

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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sun 21 Aug 2011, 01:18:40

It's still 104 at 1:15 AM. I'm going to be so glad when summer is over.
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sun 21 Aug 2011, 01:38:16

Lets have a different wager... When will come that faithful late fall day, when that first, brisk cold front comes barreling out of Canada. Every year, I watch the weather carefully to find out when, so I can be outside, under the oak trees, listening to the hot, disturbed breeze rustling; a carafe of steaming coffee and a pastry or two on a plate... the wind rustles vigorously, and then you can taste the change in the air. I pour some coffee as the first nip of chilling air pushes through abruptly. A sip. A nibble.

Bliss.

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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby VZR1800 » Mon 22 Aug 2011, 01:40:56

AgentR11 wrote:Lets have a different wager... When will come that faithful late fall day, when that first, brisk cold front comes barreling out of Canada. Every year, I watch the weather carefully to find out when, so I can be outside, under the oak trees, listening to the hot, disturbed breeze rustling; a carafe of steaming coffee and a pastry or two on a plate... the wind rustles vigorously, and then you can taste the change in the air. I pour some coffee as the first nip of chilling air pushes through abruptly. A sip. A nibble.

Bliss.

November 8th.


I'm going to have to try that this year, sounds great. 8)
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 22 Aug 2011, 02:06:42

I prefer the first smell of snow in the air and a cup of hot chocolate, but I'm right there with you.

It's not been quite the same since I moved to Texas. I miss the seasons.

Here we just have Fall, Spring, Heat Lamp and Toaster Oven.
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 22 Aug 2011, 06:58:31

Well Cid, you could go up to Newfoundland. I've been watching the weather there (Bonavista) for the past couple of years.

Jan. 3, 2010, low 34, July 4, 2009 low 32.

http://www.world-climates.com/city-clim ... h-america/

Basically one season: March.

Actually summer can be quite nice, just not this one.
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby Timo » Tue 23 Aug 2011, 16:20:05

AgentR11 wrote:Lets have a different wager... When will come that faithful late fall day, when that first, brisk cold front comes barreling out of Canada. Every year, I watch the weather carefully to find out when, so I can be outside, under the oak trees, listening to the hot, disturbed breeze rustling; a carafe of steaming coffee and a pastry or two on a plate... the wind rustles vigorously, and then you can taste the change in the air. I pour some coffee as the first nip of chilling air pushes through abruptly. A sip. A nibble.

Bliss.

November 8th.


Wow, AR11! That's some powerful wax. Let me guess: you were a philosophy major in college before you found that the quickest path to graduation was a degree in literature. Before you cast that off as rude or irrelevant, that scenario applied to me exactly back in the 80s.
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby peeker01 » Tue 23 Aug 2011, 16:43:04

Having lived in the midwest, I can relate, although I wouldn't express it quite that gay.
Odd thing is, and I don't remember it from years back, cold fronts have been falling out of
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 23 Aug 2011, 16:44:13

I agree with Timo--well turned prose. (In spite of our homophobic friend's crude assessment.)

Any aspirations in that direction, AR?
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Tue 23 Aug 2011, 17:05:35

It's a sad state of affairs when someone actually can write with a nice turn of phrase (instead of the almost illiterate writing level seen all too frequently on the internet), and someone has to refer to it with hostility. (Leaving aside the whole homophobic issue -- which IMO is just as stupid as racism, sexism, etc).

The next time you're unhappy with how intolerant some rude/thoughtless person is toward something or someone you care about -- you might remember this peeker01.
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby AgentR11 » Tue 23 Aug 2011, 17:44:38

Bah, I've read letters from the civil war era and before... low brow grunts put me to shame. At one time, one's skill with poetry or prose was considered no less important than one's fencing or marksmanship, part of the whole package as a force to be reckoned with on the field of battle. A bit of this ethos still lives on in the US senior officer corp; but the rest of us monkeys just flounder around embarrassingly. We know we are capable of being much more.. but hey, the Simpsons are on.
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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby AgentR11 » Tue 23 Aug 2011, 17:46:29

dohboi wrote:Any aspirations in that direction, AR?


Nope. I like eating well. Math, science and engi all the way.

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Re: Heat 'Dome' Covers 1 Million Square Miles Across US

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 23 Aug 2011, 18:51:39

As I recently heard a now successful performer say about his days living on about ten thousand a year with his wife, "Hey, we were poor, but we were un-happy."
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Re: It's Bloody HOT!!!

Unread postby PeakOiler » Sun 28 Aug 2011, 10:21:20

Yesterday Camp Mabry in Austin, TX reported a record high temperature of 110 F (43 C). Burnet (KBMQ) reported a record high temperature of 106 F (41 C). Today is supposed to be even hotter, perhaps breaking the all-time record high for Austin since record keeping began!

It's bloody hot!
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Re: It's Bloody HOT!!!

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sun 28 Aug 2011, 10:26:42

The jerks! They have the nerve to FORECAST 108F for us today! RAWR!
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Re: It's Bloody HOT!!!

Unread postby PeakOiler » Sun 28 Aug 2011, 12:54:32

I just placed my digital thermocouple thermometer outside on the shaded back patio and it's already 106F at 12:45 PM local time. I set the thermometer on record and will check the max temp this evening.

Meanwhile, the solar water distiller has been pumping out about 5 liters/day of potable water lately. The solar water heater is working great too!

Edit: It's now 108F @ 1:50 PM local time. I'm going to use the SunOven to heat up some yellow wax beans and some pinto beans, and BBQ some steaks with tomatoes, onions and hg bell peppers on the grill. It's almost too hot to BBQ!
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Re: It's Bloody HOT!!!

Unread postby Revi » Sun 28 Aug 2011, 16:23:25

I wonder if there is a solar bar-b-que possible. If you could double that temperature it would cook things really fast!

We are experiencing some tropical storm warmth up here in Maine now.
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