Hello from North Carolina...

[NCLambert]

I'm excited to be a part of a group that intelligently discusses difficult environmental issues.

[Fishman]

Er, um, this is a peak oil site. We discuss peak oil issues (occasionally), cannibalism rarely, food, sustainability sometimes but
"intelligently discusses difficult environmental issues."
Not so much.
Perhaps discuss environmental issues would be correct, intelligently and difficult would be a stretch

[vision-master]

I'm excited to be a part of a group that intelligently discusses difficult environmental issues.

You mean AGW?

[Ferretlover]

Er, um, this is a peak oil site. We discuss peak oil issues (occasionally), cannibalism rarely, food, sustainability sometimes but
"intelligently discusses difficult environmental issues."
Not so much.
Perhaps discuss environmental issues would be correct, intelligently and difficult would be a stretch

I have to agree with the Fish on this one. We rarely have an opportunity to intelligently discuss environmental issues because the site is overrun . Off topic text deleted.

[SilentRunning]

These republilcan creationsists think they know their place in heaven, but don't know their place in this world, because they don't live it in. They only live inside man's machines--this complex suburbia--built with science, but they are willing to ignore science that does not support their own personal agendas for more stuff, more toys, more power.

Your critique of republican theocrats is one of the best I have read recently.
The amazing thing is that even the Republican theocrats know - deep down - that their religious views are bogus - because they almost invariably try to remain alive, and not to go to their promised la-la land in the sky by the simple expedient of dying.

[FloridaGirl]

I'm excited to be a part of a group that intelligently discusses difficult environmental issues.

Welcome NCLambert!

While there are usually 2 sides written about difficult environmental issues on this site, one side is usually an intelligent discussion. I'm sure you've observed the intelligent discussions already based on your comment.

One good thing about seeing the non-scientific posts and the intelligent responses, is that the non-scientific points of view are common in the outside world and the intelligent responses on this site provide you with a good response to give.

[Sixstrings]

Only a smug, lazy, self-absorbed, anti-science American consumer believes humans are immune to their power and lust. You now have luxury and laughable soon-to-end security to ignore this peril. Most humans alive today do not. They have to worry about their families and future, and people like you scare the crap out of them.

I dunno Pstarr, I think third worlders care more about making some more money and affording a bit of the American Dream than they do about saving the planet. Look at the pollution in China. The air is so thick it's hard to breathe it. Are the factory workers wringing their hands over mother nature? Nope. Would they give up their job to save the environment? Nope. Do they want to save the planet or be the first in their family to own a car? They'll pick the car.

I've said this before, that the extremes of the green movement is a first world phenomenon -- a person must be comfortable with a good job and good income to actually have the luxury of paying more money for things so they can be "green."

Go to a Whole Foods, look at the people there. Look at the prices. This is an exclusive club, the planet doesn't have enough resources for everyone to live that way. Oh sure the Chinese could go back to the peasant villages, but they don't want to do that, they already had eco-utopia but said screw this I want opportunity and Stuff and cars and the American Dream.

I just watched a Chinese documentary last night. The countryside was gorgeous.. yet everyone wants to leave and slave away in those ugly factories in ugly dirty cities.

(I'm not anti-Green, just a realist)

[Ferretlover]

I think what pstarr is saying, is 'we' all need to change our mode of operation. Off topic text deleted.

[Ferretlover]

NC Lambert
Intelligent discussion of difficult issues normally has some basis rules, you discuss facts, data, possibly speculate on unknown data, critique the other's opinion based on the opinion itself, never critiquing the person presenting the opinion.
Observations, those with the weakest argument are the quickest to resort to name calling. Bringing someones religion or political view in the discussion itself completely destroys any credibility of one's argument. Text deleted.

[John_A]

I'm excited to be a part of a group that intelligently discusses difficult environmental issues.

That only happens when one advocate of a political position wants to call advocates of a different political position names. Don't let anyone fool you, the solution to pollution is dilution.

[Ferretlover]

Off topic posts removed. Please take religious discussions to some other more appropriate site.
Thank you.

[Fishman]

Thank you FL. I gladly accept the area you deleted from my post.
NCLambert, by the way, any particular environmental issues you would like to "discuss intellectually"?

[pstarr]

Thank you FL. I gladly accept the area you deleted from my post.
NCLambert, by the way, any particular environmental issues you would like to "discuss intellectually"?

you drove him away a while ago.

[Fishman]

I drove "him" away? You sexist pig. Could easily have been a woman. LMAO Most of your posts were deleted. I only offered points about intellectual conversation, and offered to get back to the original post. NCLambert, welcome, by the way.

[shweta]

Hello,

I m glad 2 bcum d member of ur team...
tnx

Gachubaoli, Hyderabad Apartment / Flat