linlithgowoil wrote:i am very much looking forward to the collapse of the service economy in scotland. thats all we bloody do here. call centres, banks, financial services, hotels, bars, all that crap that produces no wealth at all.
Or when you go to the grocery with your $200 budget and it’s gone faster than it used to be, do you think, ‘man we won’t be able to fly to England this year’, or do you simply forego a couple of boxes of Twinkies and that pre shredded Arugula salad mix?
Russian_Cowboy wrote:The supply of USED compact cars is FIXED. If everybody opts for buying a used compact car, there are not going to be enough used compacts for everybody. Somebody will have to buy new compact cars. The price of used small cars has already increased significantly from one year ago.
I don't see to many people arguing with that idea. Instead there seems to be a disagreement as to:smallpoxgirl wrote:...... There is not a simple solution to this problem. I think the bottom line is that the standard of living has to drop.
cube wrote:I don't see to many people arguing with that idea.smallpoxgirl wrote:I think the bottom line is that the standard of living has to drop.
cube wrote:Another problem area I see is the smog test laws.
smallpoxgirl wrote:Yeah. It's very sad, but I think that many environmental laws will start to seem like an untenable nuisance once people start to really struggle. I fear for the fate of the forests. Things don't look bright.
Leanan wrote:I fear you are correct. The effects are unpredictable, and could be nasty. Even if we don't get rid of our environmental laws, you know countries like China will be burning coal like crazy. The resulting global warming will impact us all.
It already is. Glaciers are melting all over the world. Some cities which depend on summer glacier melt for their water supplies are facing the end of their water supply within the decade, when the glaciers melt completely. Meanwhile, research on Antartica has shown that the ice sheet there is thicker than they had thought. Hundreds of feet thicker. This is bad news. If it melts, ocean levels could rise 15 ft. or more. This would be a disaster for coastal areas around the world, and some low-lying island nations would go under completely.
Scientists are also worried about what the sudden flood of cold, fresh water will do to ocean currents. While climate change is generally gradual, it can be quite sudden if ocean currents stop. An example is 1816, "the year without a summer":
http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/history/1816.htm
In 1816, it snowed in July in the eastern U.S. A killing frost hit in mid-August. All the crops were lost.
Though it was a volcanic eruption that was likely the cause, modeling suggests the mechanism was a sudden interruption of the "global conveyor belt," the temperature and salinity-driven current that circulates through the Atlantic and keeps Europe so much warmer than the U.S. in winter. So weirdly, global warming may cause some parts of the world to actually get colder.
Why a middle-class lifestyle now costs you over $300,000 a year
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