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Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

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Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Pops » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 10:01:22

Enbridge’s Flanagan South project, which would cost $2.8 billion and be completed around the same time [as the reversal of the Seaway pipe], would be built along the route of its existing Spearhead pipeline and have a capacity of 585,000 barrels a day.
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The company’s existing crude mainline to Chicago has spare capacity that will allow Enbridge to boost shipments of Canadian oil to the U.S. by as much as 500,000 barrels a day...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-2 ... anada.html
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When I heard this on NPR this morning my ears perked up because Conoco has a right of way across the corner of our property. It is the pipe that you can see deadending in SW MO on the map. I talked to a Conoco guy who said the pipeline used to go to Chicago.

Turns out the Spearhead pipe is the one that crosses east and west in MO then SW across KS to Wichita and S to Cushing.
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Re: Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Lore » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 10:25:30

This looks like a continuation of freeing up the bottle kneck in the central portion of the continent and turning on the spigot to more international exports. I believe the results will be higher Midwest gas prices while narrowing the Brent and WTI spread. The latter, dropping overall prices a few cents.
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Re: Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 10:57:02

This is very good news for US jobs. There will be jobs for folks building the pipelines, and then lifetime employment for many people in good paying jobs at the refineries in Texas. 8)
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Re: Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Lore » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 11:07:29

Plantagenet wrote:This is very good news for US jobs. There will be jobs for folks building the pipelines, and then lifetime employment for many people in good paying jobs at the refineries in Texas. 8)


Yeah, but what about all of us having to pay 20 cents/gal more at the pump In the Midwest to support a few thousand temporary extra workers?
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Re: Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 11:25:10

Lore wrote:what about all of us having to pay 20 cents/gal more at the pump In the Midwest to support a few thousand temporary extra workers?


Good point. The midwest ---except for Chicago--- has had the lowest gasoline prices in the country and they may now rise toward the levels that the rest of the lower 48 pays.
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Re: Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Lore » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 12:40:39

I'm in the Midwest, Michigan and prices at the pump today here are around $4.15/gal. Well above the national average. So, I wouldn't say Chicago is the only high price spot in the area right now.
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Re: Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Cog » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 16:42:43

Lore wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:This is very good news for US jobs. There will be jobs for folks building the pipelines, and then lifetime employment for many people in good paying jobs at the refineries in Texas. 8)


Yeah, but what about all of us having to pay 20 cents/gal more at the pump In the Midwest to support a few thousand temporary extra workers?


Aren't you progressives all about shared sacrifice and doing your fair share? You should embrace the opportunity to put your words into action.
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Re: Pipeline for tar sands "oil" announced

Unread postby Lore » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 17:13:45

Cog wrote:
Lore wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:This is very good news for US jobs. There will be jobs for folks building the pipelines, and then lifetime employment for many people in good paying jobs at the refineries in Texas. 8)


Yeah, but what about all of us having to pay 20 cents/gal more at the pump In the Midwest to support a few thousand temporary extra workers?


Aren't you progressives all about shared sacrifice and doing your fair share? You should embrace the opportunity to put your words into action.


I'd rather put my money into something more meaningful and long lasting. The shared sacrifice here seems to be a little lopsided. More bucks, enriching the oil barons and more of the same, or less for the rest.
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